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[*] posted on 3-18-2007 at 10:50 AM
enta omri musical score


Has someone "enta omri´s" musical score?:wavey:
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[*] posted on 3-19-2007 at 10:45 AM


I have been looking for this song since I returned from a visit to Egypt. It is very difficult to find. I didn't know who the song was by. I am going to try to hear it from your site. i don't know if it is possible. I live in Montreal. I cannot believe the artist does too! Neat!
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[*] posted on 3-20-2007 at 02:17 PM


Lyrics: Ahmed Shafik
Music: Mohamed Abdel Wehab




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[*] posted on 3-20-2007 at 05:53 PM


Thanx!!:)
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 09:33 AM


Hi Michoud,

I have never seen a score of "Inta Omri" on line. Music books for the major stars of Egyptian music have been published (I have one for Farid Al-Atrache), including Umm Kulthum. You could try contacting Nile Shop to see if they can sell you one (I believe many books of songs sung by Umm Kulthum have been published. Don't forget to be specific about which song you are looking for!) http://www.nileshop.net/store/nileshop_cs.asp

In the mean time here are my favorite links for this great song:

Link to Arabic Lyrics of "Inta Omri": http://almashriq.hiof.no/egypt/700/780/umKoulthoum/Songs/entaomri.h...

Transliteration and translation of lyrics (and sound clips): http://www.shira.net/inte-omri.htm

Full "Inta Omri" MP3 in 4 parts (and lyrics): http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/4229/om_kulthoom_mp3.html (appears on my screen as "Inta 3omry" [SITE ISN'T WORKING? REDIRECTS TO KUWAITI WEATHER PAGE :shrug:]

Sound clip of "Inta Omri": http://www.al-bab.com/arab/music/kulthoum.htm

Buena Suerte,
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 12:57 PM


The notation for "Inta Omri" appears in the book 'Alhan khalida,' an antholgoy of musical pieces edited by Ibrahim Ghrayyib (published in Beirut in 1997 by Dar Maktabat al-Hayat). You might be able to find this book, which includes a lot of pieces, mostly instrumental. The "Inta Omri" notation is ten pages long.
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 02:48 PM


Do you know if this book would come with notations specificaly for oud? as in when you buy notes for a peice in western classical music you have say a part for trombone 1 trombone 2 and 3 which are usualy the bass melodies and 1 the solo parts etc... would there be the part for Qanun 1 etc. and for Kamanja 1 and Kamanja 2....Or am I asking for too much hehe.
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 03:23 PM


Many Music books can be bought online on
(most are arabic, but a music sheet is a music sheet)

http://www.adabwafan.com

They have Oum Kalthoum (4 volumes)
however this one seems to be in French

http://www.adabwafan.com/display/product.asp?id=19937

They have also many arabic music related books.

Al Halabi, may be it is too much asking, but a small review and some recommendations from your side on what you believe the most interesting would be really great.
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 04:03 PM


I have a transcription of this piece from this book I believe. Give me a couple days to post
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 04:55 PM


Thanks to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 3-21-2007 at 05:10 PM


Samir, the pieces in this collection are in the standard Arab notation for a solo instrument (playable on the oud, qanun, violin, nay). There are no arrangements with separate parts for multiple instruments.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2007 at 10:15 AM


Alami, no problem. I can comment about some of the collections of Arab music notations that are useful. A number of good ones published a while back are now unfortunately either out of print or very hard to find. For example, there is a large three-volume anthology of instrumental pieces by Abd al-Rahman Jabaqji (“al-Mawsu’ah al-musiqiyah”). It is the most comprehensive collection of sama’is, bashrafs and longas in Arabic notation. Jabaqji also published a nice book of Arabic folksongs (“al-Fulklur al-‘arabi”) with notations and lyrics, and anthologies of songs of Farid, Abd al-Wahhab, Fairuz, and Abd al-Halim Hafiz. His books were self-published in Aleppo 25-30 years ago, and I am not sure that he is still alive and the books are available. There are also two very good collections of muwashshah songs that are no longer in print (one edited by Salim al-Hilu and the other by Nadim Ali al-Darwish and Fu’ad Raja’i). Books in the Arab world, especially specialised ones with expected small readerships, tend to be issued in small runs and become unavailable relatively quickly.

The best bet is to look for more recently published books that can be purchased through online stores like adabwafan.com and maqam.com, or directly from the publishers. Adabwafan has available several recently published collections of notations of individual artists. Alami posted the web page showing the anthology of Umm Kulthum songs. The same series includes also anthologies of the songs of Fairuz, Farid, Abd al-Wahhab, and Sabah Fakhri, and possibly other artists. I have not seen these books, but they look like good buys. Maybe those who get them can tell us more.

For those interested in songs by great composers of a previous generation, including Sayyid Darwish, Da'ud Husni, Abduh al-Hamuli, and Zakariya Ahmad, a good anthology is "Turathuna al-musiqi" by Mahmud 'Ajjan (published in Damascus by Dar Tlas in 1990).

A recently published collection that has a mixture of pieces is “Alhan khalida,” which I had mentioned earlier. Anthologies of this sort often repeat pieces that we already have or include pieces that we are not interested in, so it’s hard to make a definite recommendation for a particular collection. One anthology that is well done is the four-volume collection titled "Sharqiyat" issued in 2002 by the National Conservatory of Music at Birzeit University. The books are used by the conservatory for degree exams in performance, so they are arranged by level of technical difficulty (from simple songs like ‘Ala dal’ona to challenging instrumental pieces by Munir Bashir and Muhiddin Targan). And I just noticed that the collection includes Inta omri! These books are available for purchase online:

http://ncm.birzeit.edu/new/page.php?page=publicationUnit

Another source of notations is oud methods, some of which have a good selection of pieces. Charbel Rouhana's recently published oud method includes many traditional as well as more contemporary compositions. Abd al-Mun'im Arafah's now classic "Dirasat al-'ud" was recently reprinted in Cairo. It has over a hundred pages of notated instrumental pieces. The four-volume method by the Syrian oud player Fu'ad Mahfuz ("Ta'lim al-'ud") also includes many pieces, but I don't believe that it has been reprinted since it first came out in the 1960s.

Some web sites have free sheet music that can be downloaded, although the online sources for Arab music are currently far inferior to what is available for Turkish music. Other web sites sell the sheet music for individual pieces, for example:

http://www.xauen-music.com/xauen-music/adSearchSheet.php

Speaking of web sites, there is of course this forum, which has been a good place for people to get notations from fellow members. I think that between us we could come up with the sheet music for most pieces.
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[*] posted on 3-22-2007 at 12:08 PM


Not working for me, i'll try again later
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 12:07 AM


Many thanks Al-halabi.

I dropped today in a music store and found that they have a lot of many new music sheets books and many new reprints.

The self-published books of Jabakji are reedited gathering the previous different volumes in one book for each artist from "Dar Al Tourath Al Mousiqi Al Arabi", which seems the Jabakji House. I got the Fayrouz Anthology (192 songs), but I couldn't find "Al Mawsou'ah Al Musiqia"

(Salim al-Hilu and Nadim Ali al-Darwish and Fu’ad Raja’i Books are no more available.)

Clean and well printed OumKoulthoum and Abdelwahab scores in a serie called "Songs & Melodies by Vasken Habib" - Aleppo

Two new anthologies:
"Oughniat Min Al Turath" - Joseph Fakhouri (160 traditional songs)
"Ahla Al Kalam Wa Arwa' Al Alhan" - Habib Zaher Al Abbas - 164 classical songs and Muwashah"

Both published by Al Maktaba Al Haditha - Beirut

They also told me that the "Turathuna al-musiqi" by Mahmud 'Ajjan is actually unavailable (but may be still available in Syria)

Alhan Khalida serie is available.

All these books are not really expensive which means that the original composers are not getting rights for the publication of their music, add to this that many are traditional and public domain old music, so I think that Al Halabi suggestion of building our own "online Library" is a good idea.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 08:45 AM


Alami, you are welcome.

Thanks for the references to the new collections of notations that you found. I think that Fakhouri’s anthology has been out for a while – I got the book about ten years ago. At least the edition I have includes the melodies for Johnny Guitar and White Christmas!

Perhaps I should clarify that in my comments about the usefulness of this forum as a source for notations I was not recommending that we set up an online library of notations, although that is definitely worth considering. I was giving my impression that members have been generally successful in getting notations from others on the forum when they posted a request. If that is correct then one possibility is to continue with this informal way of sharing with each other when the occasional request comes up. It would be nice, of course, to have a broad-based online library of Arab music notations. It would take some planning to set it up in an organized way that makes it user-friendly, especially if it develops into a large project with hundreds of pieces that need to be classified (perhaps most reasonably by maqam and composer) and mounted, presumably by members who volunteer to maintain the archive. (There are good models that we could follow, such as adamgood’s archive of Ottoman pieces.) Something on this order would require a dedicated space on the site that goes beyond a single thread. If there is general interest in setting up such an archive, we need to hear what Mike thinks of the idea.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 09:38 AM


Absolutly right it is up to Mike to decide on this matter.
Sorry Mike you make us feel so much at home that we sometimes forget that we are all your guest.

I believe that the "Library Project" is worth being considered.
Ethically, there is no commercial side as all is free.
Culturaly, there is no "complete" ressource online of Oriental Music scores, which would make this one a good reference for people anywhere.
Practically, the members are spread all over the world where it is sometimes difficult to get arabic music sheets.

Anta Omri Score was uploaded to the thread "Musical Scores"
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 10:32 AM


Thank you al-Halabi, I will surely have a chance to get some of those in Syria this summer.

Salam
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 11:26 AM
Johnny Oud !


Ha :D Just checked, Johnny Guitar is still in the new edition.

And if you think it is odd to find "Johnny Guitar" in a traditional Arab music anthology, what about this one

Munir Bashir playing Johnny Guitar
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[*] posted on 3-23-2007 at 01:00 PM


:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
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[*] posted on 3-26-2007 at 11:48 PM


Check out these posts, it explains a secret I've been holding for a while :D

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=5902

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=5880&pa...

There is Enta Umri in our archive if you still need it. Sorry for the delay
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[*] posted on 6-13-2007 at 01:48 AM


Attached a version of Anta Omri transcripted for oud solo (some minor errors) but very nice and complete.

By the way, we miss our friend Al Halabi, hope he's OK just busy playing his ouds or writing an oriental music encyclopedia, Salam if you read this.
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[*] posted on 6-13-2007 at 12:58 PM


Thank you for the sheets



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[*] posted on 6-14-2007 at 10:35 AM


Thank you Alami!!
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[*] posted on 6-14-2007 at 02:21 PM


Hey guys
I wanna ask you,how can I buy this book with oum kalthoum songs?
is it posible to have too?
a copy of it or anything?
Thank you very much
please send u2u or e-mail,or just post here.
Also Wadi al Safi songs,Mohamed abdel wahab,I really start with this style many years ago,and now I have a singer which he sings great this songs.I don't speak Arab,but I can understand french.
I really appreciate your help.
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[*] posted on 6-14-2007 at 02:23 PM


and maybe near the book to be and a cd sellection of the songs,so we can understand the feeling
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