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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 03:30 AM
Hamza el Din's tuning?


He's a really famous oud player in the west, but I can't seem to find any info on what sort of tuning(s) he used etc. I know he's North African, so I'm guessing something similar to Egyptian or Moroccan tuning, but maybe different altogether on account of his Nubian background?
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 10:03 AM


I dont think I ever heard of a Maroccan Tuning. But regardles Hamza el Din was of the Nubian culture which is mainly south of egypt and north of Sudan.
Which makes it far from being north affrican... the music is entirely different and the dialects are night and day.

North Affrica usualy refers to the Maghreb which takes in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Lybia.

The tunings used in egypt are the Standard arabic tunings which are. for 6 strings single base string to trebble.

C FF AA dd gg cc
D GG AA dd gg cc
C EE AA dd gg cc
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 10:52 AM


Hani Naser, the Jordanian percussionist played with him and also playes oud. If anyone knows Hamza's tuning Hani would. He has a website. Send him an email. D.L.
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:27 PM


According to previous post in these forums Hamza used 12 Strings tuned DD-GG-AA-dd-gg-cc on his Abdo Nahat oud.
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[*] posted on 6-12-2007 at 01:43 AM


Thank you for the info, as always.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 03:29 AM


I just stumbled across this post by accident, and what Hamza al Din used to do was take the standard Egyptian tuning of F A D G C F and drop it by a semitone, therefore ending up with E G# C# F# B E, and thats the tuning :) Munir Bashir used to do the same thing with his F C D G C F tuning. I had to learn this the hard way trying to play along to recordings and not knowing what on earth was going on!!

And on that note - does anyone know what Rahim al Hajj does with his tuning?? I got this CD of his and the tuning seems outrageously high...definitely higher than the standard Iraqi...
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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 04:16 AM


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Originally posted by Melbourne
And on that note - does anyone know what Rahim al Hajj does with his tuning?? I got this CD of his and the tuning seems outrageously high...definitely higher than the standard Iraqi...


See http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=6382&pa...
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[*] posted on 1-11-2013 at 10:20 AM


here it is! great archives...





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[*] posted on 1-11-2013 at 04:27 PM


Rahim is a customer of mine and has particular string requests. I will ask him what tuning he is using exactly.



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[*] posted on 1-12-2013 at 09:38 AM


I'd be interested in that--I've been chking his music after reading this thread. This one is espc. interesting as he plays just before sarod duo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZLoG735Ko&feature=share&li...


My tuning adventures continue to change as I look for a unique sound that rests easy in the pegbox.

--recently this one has opened more possibilities. .

D-GG-AA-CC-DD-BB-A-A

having the BB course really suits the slide...
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[*] posted on 2-1-2013 at 08:40 AM


The other thread is correct, he is using FCdgc'f'. He uses pretty light strings.



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