amtaha
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10 string guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw
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gilgamesh
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it's...,it's...,it's ....!!!!!! ???? impossible!!
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Oud Freak
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Unbelievable!!! Beautiful! Amazing! Although it is a oud forum, thanks a lot for this post. Forget the guitar thechnique, the challenge and the
innovation, it is damn pleasant to hear! It's good for oudists to better know guitars as well. Speechless!
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MatthewW
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A guy in the USA named Emmet Chapman invented something very similiar about 25 years ago and called it 'The Stick'. It was very similiar to this 10
string guitar, but with no guitar body, just one long fingerboard, hence the name 'The Stick'. I saw a guy playing one once, and it was played in the
same way, with both hands 'tapping' onto the fingerboard. As it had no guitar shaped body it was played standing up, and held it in an upright
position. The one I saw even had 12 strings.
Any other members ever seen 'The Stick' being played?
There was also a gifted young jazz guitar player not long ago, his name eludes me, but he played guitar in the same way, by tapping out riffs and
chords and solos. A brilliant player.... but he just stuck to 6 strings.
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corridoio
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hi Matthew
yes.. Tony Levin, bass player used also the stick on tour with Peter Gabriel years ago..
ale.
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jazzchiss
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Very rare collection of unusual guitars: http://vorph.anlace.org/guitarras.html
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adamgood
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MatthewW
There was also a gifted young jazz guitar player not long ago, his name eludes me, but he played guitar in the same way, by tapping out riffs and
chords and solos. A brilliant player.... but he just stuck to 6 strings. |
Stanley Jordan? In 1985 or '86 when I was a much younger punk than I am now, I got to see him a couple of times playing solo. It's really incredible
what he invented with that technique but it wasn't only pyrotechnics, he really had undivided attention from the audience. Seemed to be a very
peaceful and warm guy.
RE: Tony Levin, you can also hear him playing Stick on the amazing King Crimson record "Discipline." Oh I love that recording.
adam
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MatthewW
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Adam, yes that was the guy- Stanley Jordan. he had an amazing technique!
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Microber
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Trey Gunn also plays this instrument with King Krimson, David Sylvian and Robert Fripp, and a few solo album
Robert
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Wm. De Leonardis
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When talking unusual guitars and extended techniques, guitarist/instrument builder Hans Reichel shouldn’t be left out. I’ve attached a photo of
one of his guitars.
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jdowning
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A virtuosic performance. No wonder that the 10 string guitar has a popular following these days.
Of course, this instrument is not a new development but was introduced during the 1960's by the late Narciso Yepes, on a Ramirez guitar - essentially
a concert classical guitar with the extra strings added. Earlier guitars of this kind were being made in the early 19th C - for example Lacote of
Paris made an 11 string guitar in the 1820's. The big difference being that the Lacote instrument had the usual 6 strings that were stopped on the
fingerboard with 5 additional bass strings that were played 'open' - whereas the Ramirez instrument allows all strings to be stopped, greatly
increasing the range (and resonance) of the guitar in the hands of a virtuoso. These guitars are also handy for playing the lute repertoire with the
extra basses being played 'open' as they would be on a lute.
So oudists, in these days of experimentation, how about a 10 course oud? Or does such an instrument already exist?
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ALAMI
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"In these days of experimentation"..........
Some old and new ideas
- Vintage Harp-Guitars
http://www.harpguitars.net/iconography/iconography.htm
- the Harpouditar (already posted but nice to see again)
http://www.beyondthetrees.com/hrpudpho.html
Why not a Oud-Qanun ?
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Butrous
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Chapman Stick
I a musician play the Chapman Stick in a Greenwich Village, New York City club circa 1974.
Amazing!!
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jdowning
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There are also some nice images of the early Lacote guitars on the harp-guitars link given by ALAMI at
http://www.harpguitars.net/history/lacote/lacote.htm
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jdowning
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I am currently in the process of reviewing "Musick's Monument" by Thomas Mace - published in London 1676 - as the book contains many interesting
references that may apply to the oud just as well as the lute - the two instruments being historically linked and structurally very similar.
By 1676, Mace was partially deaf to the point where he was not able to hear the sound of a lute - a great misfortune for one so devoted to that
instrument. Undeterred, Mace invented a new lute that he called the Dyphone ("the one only instrument in being of that kind and but lately invented by
myself and made with my own hands") - a kind of 'Siamese Twin' lute with two lutes joined together, a French lute and English lute, the whole
instrument carrying a total of 50 strings! This extraordinary instrument helped to solved Mace's personal dilemma as the instrument was so loud that
he could hear most of what he played - but not everything. "... yet not so loud as to distinguish everything I play without the help of my teeth which
when I lay close to the edge of it (the Dyphone) I hear all I play distinctly". So Mace had to be a bit of a contortionist as well! He then goes on to
explain the other several advantages of the instrument.
The attached image is an engraving of the Dyphone or Double-Lute with surrounding text which reads "The Lute Dyphone. Two lutes in one. The English
and French Lute joined are. Both which have made a Lute beyond compare"
What is not clear from the engraving is that the sound board is split between the bridges (with supporting braces each side of the join) so that the
whole soundboard does not have to be removed for repairs.
The Dyphone never caught on - but more on Mace, relevant to the oud, later
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Peyman
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This picture was posted by Jameel a while ago. I couldn't get over how crazy it looked. Part oud, part saz (buzuk), part bozuki.
You guys should also look up 10 string classical guitars.
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gilgamesh
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swiss guitar?
At least a guitar concept as Swiss knives sounds and looks like a dream  Hye Charlie, your photo makes me want to be grafted
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