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exclamation.gif posted on 2-24-2008 at 06:06 PM
Ya Rayeh


Hello Group, how's everyone doing.
I'm new here, and also a new oud player, just learned to tune oud's n stuff, now going to go to the next level "to play an actual thing", i love the song "ya rayeh wain emsafer" i was wondering if anyone can demonstrate it slowley and then play it, with focus on the oud for us "or me" to learn? i'd realy appreciate that...... and i think its a good song to start with..or...? anyone?


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[*] posted on 3-3-2008 at 01:47 PM


The original composer el Harrachi (tahya al djazair:xtreme:) played it with banjo. But if you have his version i think it is possible to follow with the oud. (Me I find it difficult, specially to be in the rythm).
I would also love to listen at this song played and sung on oud. It is a great great song and i will like to learn it.




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[*] posted on 3-3-2008 at 03:27 PM


q8oud, here is the sheet, it is not an easy piece to start with, zalzal is right the rythm is difficult and it goes very high up the neck (you can still transpose these parts to a lower and safer areas).

This is the original version composed by Dahman El Harrachy.
Alors Zal, let's hear it on your new oud.

I love the way how the title is written with the accent: YaRRayah
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[*] posted on 3-3-2008 at 10:35 PM


Many thanks Alami. It's difficult to be rrrrrrray7in, mudja7irrrrrr, jarrrrrrraga.....exiled fm yr original place.
This rrrrrrrrrrr is our proudness.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2008 at 07:09 AM


for training, am attaching the rhythm, it is taken and looped for 5 min from Rachid Taha CD.
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[*] posted on 3-7-2008 at 08:43 AM


Hello,
yeah i know its kinda hard to play, but i've been listenin to it played on oud for ages now, i guess thats why i realy memorized it and got it stuck in my head....

many thanks for you guys for paying attention and helping me. appreciate it... thanks again..

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[*] posted on 3-8-2008 at 09:56 PM


I also love this song! Here's a youtube clip of a version I enjoy on what I believe is some kind of mandola (looks like my octave mandolin).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoFTUsVtNmQ




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[*] posted on 3-9-2008 at 03:58 AM


Thankyou very much Alami, yr rythm is very helpful.

We have now the rythm and the sheet.
Let me put now the arabic phonetics, arabic alphabet and translations in french and english.
(I copied it fm some of many of internet entries on this song).


SO WE CAN NOW LEARN IT AND SING IT.

Do not forget that probably the vast majority of members of this forum are emigrants/immigrants, and this song is an hymn to the emigrant.

q8oud, you say "i've been listenin to it played on oud for ages now"....
I have also listened to it many times, but rarely on oud. Mostly on algerian mandol, and of course, on banjo, which was the preferred instrument of Dahmane el Harrachi, a real virtuose player of banjo.
q8oud, if you know on any version on oud pls advise as i would like to listen at.

Thankyou Orahim1 for yr version but i still prefer the original chaabi ones, specially El Harrachi one.
Listen at his one while looking at nice photos.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=9j0L57HJkm4&feature=related

Now the song

Ya rayah win msafar trouh taaya wa twali
Ô toi qui t'en vas, où pars-tu ? Tu finiras par revenir
Chhal nadmou laabad el ghaflin qablak ou qabli
Combien de gens peu avisés l'ont regretté avant toi et moi

Chhal cheft al bouldan laamrine wa lber al khali
Combien de pays surpleuplés et de régions désertes as-tu vu ?
Chhal dhiyaat wqat chhal tzid mazal ou t'khali
Combien de temps as-tu gaspillé ? Combien vas-tu en perdre encore et que laisseras-tu ?
Ya lghayeb fi bled ennas chhal taaya ma tadjri
Ô toi l'émigré, tu ne cesses de courir dans le pays des autres
Tzid waad el qoudra wala zmane wenta ma tedri
Le destin et le temps suivent leur course mais toi tu l'ignores

[Refrain] [Refrain]

Aalach qalbek hzine waalach hakdha ki zawali
Pourquoi ton coeur est-il si triste ? Pourquoi restes-tu planté là comme un malheureux ?
Matdoum achadda wila tzid taalem ou tabni
Les difficultés ne durent pas (1), et toi tu ne construiras, ni n'apprendras rien de plus, ainsi
Maydoumou layyam walay doum seghrek ou seghri
Les jours ne durent pas, tout comme ta jeunesse et la mienne
Ya hlilou meskine li ghab saadou ki zahri
Ô le malheureux dont la chance est passée, comme la mienne

[Refrain] [Refrain]

Ya msafer naatik oussaayti addiha el bakri
Ô toi qui voyage, je te donne un conseil à suivre tantôt
Chouf ma yeslah bik qbal ma tbia ou ma techri
Vois ce qui te convient avant de vendre ou d'acheter
Ya nnayem djani khabrek ma sralek ma srali
Ô toi l'endormi, des nouvelles de toi me sont parvenues, il t'est arrivé ce qui m'est arrivé
Hakdha rad el qalb bel djbine sabhane El Aali
Ainsi reviens le coeur à son créateur le Très Haut



يا رايح وين تسافر تروح تعيي وتولينى
ايش حال ندموا العباد الغافلين قبلك وقبلى

ايش حال شفت البلدان العامرين والبر الخالى
ايش حال ضيعت اوقات وايش حال زيد ما زال تخلى
يا الغايب فى بلاد الناس ايش حال تعيي ما تجرى
تزيد وعد القدرة ولى الزمان وانت ما تدرى

علاش قلبك حزين وعلاش هكدا كى الزوال
ما تدوم الشدة ولا تزيد تعلم وتبنى
ما يدومولى الايام ولا يدوم صغرك وصغرى
ويا حليلو المسكين اللى غاب سعده كى زهرى

يا مسافر نعطيك وصية تيجاها ع البكرى
شوف ما يصلح ليك قبل ولا تبيع ولا تشرى
يا النايم جانى خبرك كى ماصرالك صار لى
هكدا رد القلب والجبين..سبحان العالى


Rachid Taha - Oh Emigrant

Oh where are you going?
Eventually you must come back
How many ignorant people have regretted this
Before you and me

How many overpopulated countries and empty lands have you seen?
How much time have you wasted?
How much have you yet to lose?
Oh emigrant in the country of others
Do you even know what's going on?
Destiny and time follow their course but you ignore it

Why is your heart so sad?
And why are you staying there miserable?
Hardship will end and you no longer learn or build anything
The days don't last, just as your youth and mine didn't
Oh poor fellow who missed his chance just as I missed mine

Oh traveler, I give you a piece of advice to follow right away
See what is in your interest before you sell or buy
Oh sleeper, your news reached me
And what happened to you happened to me
Thus, the heart returns to its creator, the Highest (God)


TAHYA AL DJAZAIR !!!!!!




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[*] posted on 3-9-2008 at 10:07 AM


Zalzal,
Very nice find. This is probably the song I hear remixed the most on Middle Eastern fusion Cd's. The first time I heard it was on the Arabian Travels CD put out by Six Degrees Records. On that CD there is also another remix of a song called Telephone Arab which I also enjoy quite a bit and has oud.




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[*] posted on 3-10-2008 at 10:00 AM


Thanks guy for the rythm, the lyrics and the links to utube! Great song indeed, which is so know in so many countries.. Here in Israel it is always played in weddings parties for instance
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[*] posted on 3-25-2008 at 08:07 AM


Thanks alot guys for your help,
thanks zlzal for those lovely lyrics, yes i've listened to it many times played on Oud, Arabian oud, and to be more specific it was played on an oud brand called Salmen, a famous brand in kuwait... i will try to post it somewhere soon hopefully and i'll update you with the link...


thanks again guys..
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[*] posted on 5-4-2008 at 04:25 PM


Check this out:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=skFwEZ1lKgY
Dalaras!

Also, Shantel, the Balkan Beats wizzkid did a Balkanized Brass version of it which I believe to be serbian lyrics, but I couldn't find a youtube link for it!
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