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[*] posted on 12-18-2008 at 01:37 AM
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hello every body;
i am going to buy this syrian oud;
this oud was made in 1971; the table is a little broken;
please tell me ; what do you think about this oud;
how much does it cost ?
thank you
(sorry for my english)



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[*] posted on 12-18-2008 at 02:08 AM


Odd that the pickguard covers the small sound hole decoration. You will need to see how much the face repairs will cost you. No rosette means you can check for loose bracing. Bridge looks a little primitive. If I were buying this oud I would check the action and the pegs. If these are ok I would make an offer based on its sound and playability. On looks alone I would be surprised if the seller was asking more than 3 hundred Euros but I could be completely wrong. If it sounds well then decide what you are prepared to pay for such a sound. Good luck. C
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[*] posted on 12-18-2008 at 09:50 AM


Indeed, take really care to the action on this kind of old oud, also to the size of the bowl. On arabic oud, it may be quite big and a bit uncomfortable to play.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2009 at 12:21 PM


thanks for the advice!
i know it's better to try it; before buy it ;but the seller is too far;
and he sell's me the oud for 75 euros;
the oud is a little damaged;but nothing very important...so
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[*] posted on 1-10-2009 at 01:18 PM
Bye it :-)


For 75 euros, I'ld bye it and hang it on the wall! It is a nice peace for decoration :')

When it comes to playing, it is much better to bye a NEW oud. Quality on new ouds is by far much better then just 20 years ago. It will cost you more to repare it, and will never be as good as the new modern ones.
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[*] posted on 1-12-2009 at 08:52 AM


i think it's a very good deal.
it coud be a gamil gergy oud
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 01:18 AM


Sure, for this price it may be an interested deal.
Difficult to judge by pictures, but it seems nice.

By the way, I didn't saw your location before...I send you U2U.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 01:26 AM


thanks for the advice; i think it's a good deal too;
zou ;how can you say it's a gamil george oud;
there 're specific?comment le savoir ; car il n'y a pas d'etiquette
a l'interieur du oud;
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 01:36 AM


C'est vrai que it's a good deal!
Pour 75 euros tu n'as rien à perdre et tu pourras toujours l'améliorer s'il est difficilement jouable.
I have an old syrian "tourist" oud on which I try some improvements. C'est utile aussi pour piger le fonctionnement de ces petites bêtes ventrues.....
Et certains (es) sur ce forum en ont vu défiler beaucoup alors ils ont des yeux affûtés et trouvent les racines!!!
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 02:13 AM


c'est juste une intuition :
regarde ces youtube :
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pk0WMetgp8&feature=related
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=RrKYFlz_v6I&feature=related
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=i4VMSHdpPE8&feature=related
hope that helps
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[*] posted on 1-16-2009 at 12:13 PM


j'ai donc recu le oud.............. malheureusement cassé pendant le transport;
je ne vous raconte pas comme je suis content;bref
je vais quand meme essayé de le reparer;
il y une etiquette a l'interieur;avec la photo de Ali Kalifa;
avec la mention "Khalifa Akhwan "brothers"(merci a abusin pour la traduction)
voila
merci en tout cas pour vos avis
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[*] posted on 1-16-2009 at 01:35 PM


Bienvenue au club des heureux possesseurs de oud cassé.
Qu'y a t il eu d'endommagé sur ton instrument durant le transport? Avec l'experience d'autres membres du forum tu trouveras peut être une solution assez simple pour y remedier.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2009 at 02:59 PM


ca me fait vraiment de la peine pour ce oud;
il a traversé les ages; et ce retrouve avec la touche; la jonction de la tete et du manche; et la boule a l'arriere cassé; par des incompetents
voici les photos:


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[*] posted on 1-16-2009 at 04:47 PM


J'ai eu à peu près le même problème sur un oud commandé cet été......Ne t'inquiète pas , c'est tout à fait réparable bien que ce soit très dépaisant et démoralisant de recevoir un instrument dans cet état.....
Il était bien emballé? Il semble qu'il ait subi deux chocs différents....
Pense tout de suite à faire valoir l'assurance s'il y en a une en faisant tout d'abord constater le plus rapidement possible si ce n'est déjà fait.....
Et après, bonne chance.
Si tu as besoin de plus de renseignements pour les démarches, n'hésite pas à demander.
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[*] posted on 1-17-2009 at 10:00 AM


Going back to english... how it could have been damaged to this point?
Was it shipped in a hard case or in a simple gig bag ?

I think for the neck you will find information to repair it in the forum.
For the bowl I don't really know how you can fix it. I mean it is quite easy to fill the crack, but the best would be to make the ribs closer and glue them together, but I don't know if there is a technique for that.

At least one good point is the face wasn't damaged, so the repair shall not affect the sound of your instrument, even the crack of the bowl I think.

Good luck.
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[*] posted on 1-17-2009 at 10:46 AM


merci francis; oui il etait bien emballé; dans un carton certes; mais entouré de poches d'air; avec la mention fragile; protégé par un matelat en mousse;
j'ai confié le oud a mon prof qui va consulter son luthier pour une reparation

suz; yes it was shipped with a simple cardboard bag; but a lot of protection inside;
if the transporter maked attention of the package; it will never be broken;
i am going to repair it by a oud maker
thanks for your post
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