Masel
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makams tahir and muhayyer
i am trying to understand the difference between these two makams.
as far as i know, both are descending makams that share the same husseini scale, and make a rest on husseini note (as opposed to makam neva which
rests on the note neva). so what is it that makes tahir and muhayyer two different makams?
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PeppeOud
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Basically Tahir has a more similar seyir to Neva instead of Husseyni, but descending as you said.
Muhayyer : Huseyni = Tahir : Neva
So is not correct to make a rest on husseyni (mi) while playing Tahir, you've to play "around" neva note like rast from neva.
"theoretically" the two makams have a different composition:
Muhayyer is, like Husseyni composed by an Huseyni pentachord from dugah and an Ussak tetrachord from husseyni.
Tahir is, like Neva, composed by an Ussak tetrachord from Dugah and a Rast pentachord from Neva.
As you will know, each tetrachord/pentachord brings with him certain melodic movements so by the composition of Tahir makam you will easily understand
how Huseyni is a less important note than Neva in his seyir.
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Edward Powell
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where the confusion comes is that an ussak tetrachord + rast pentachord are the same NOTES as huseini pentachord + ussak tetrachord. The point being
that "huseini PENTACHORD" could also probably be called and ussak pentrachord --- in terms strictly just of the notes (not the dominants)
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Masel
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ok i know the pentachords, i probably misheard or something about tahir being husseini + ussak not ussak + rast. thanks
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