Yaron Naor
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How to make the pegs turn smooth?
The pegs on an old Oud of a friend goes tik tik tik How can I make them go smooth?
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Yaron.
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Sazi
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Here you go Yaron. http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=2292
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Wow! I don't know if you plan to go THAT far as that tutorial. What you describe could be Tik Tik Tik of the pegs, or the nut. Do you mean the pegs
squeak, or there are jumps when the wound strings "click" on the nut's grooves?
The pegs, if they are fitted well to their holes, can be treated with a little hard soap, this has to be a very very dry old piece of plain plain
soap. On the "rings" were the peg and pegbox mate. This will make the pegs turn very smoothly. Too smoothly. They will not hold. So you balance that
with a little chalk. Chalk will make it stop and hold. Too much hold. So it's a tricky balance you have to find, to where you can easily start it
turning, and when you stop, it stays. It takes very little of both. I have not tried peg dope, and I have not tried beeswax, but a lot of very good
old instrument luthiers only use soap and chalk.
One headache I find with oud pegs is that the taper is much "faster" than on modern violin/viola pegs, and this makes them work out very easily. So
you have to keep pushing in as you tune.
Good luck. Maybe if you explain better what the tik tik tik is ...
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Yaron Naor
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Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  | Wow! I don't know if you plan to go THAT far as that tutorial. What you describe could be Tik Tik Tik of the pegs, or the nut. Do you mean the pegs
squeak, or there are jumps when the wound strings "click" on the nut's grooves?
The pegs, if they are fitted well to their holes, can be treated with a little hard soap, this has to be a very very dry old piece of plain plain
soap. On the "rings" were the peg and pegbox mate. This will make the pegs turn very smoothly. Too smoothly. They will not hold. So you balance that
with a little chalk. Chalk will make it stop and hold. Too much hold. So it's a tricky balance you have to find, to where you can easily start it
turning, and when you stop, it stays. It takes very little of both. I have not tried peg dope, and I have not tried beeswax, but a lot of very good
old instrument luthiers only use soap and chalk.
One headache I find with oud pegs is that the taper is much "faster" than on modern violin/viola pegs, and this makes them work out very easily. So
you have to keep pushing in as you tune.
Good luck. Maybe if you explain better what the tik tik tik is ...
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Thanks you both for your replies!
The "Tik" sound comes from the "Rings" that holds the pegs.
In one hand it is hard to turn them acuratly in the other hand they are release after one day??
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fernandraynaud
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Are the strings "settled"? If they are new, they stretch, so you need to help them by stretching, but up and down parallel to the soundboard (so you
don't stress the bridge). After a few days they stop stretching. The wound strings settle first.
Then I would try to rub a little bit of hard soap and chalk at the worn "rings", very very little of each, first on one peg to try. You can practice
on the 12th peg. Work the mix into the wood by turning. You want it to resist turning, then break loose and turn freely, and when you stop, it should
resist again. That's the ideal mix of chalk and soap. If you put too much of either, no drama, clean off and start over.
When you tune you have to take a bit of a "running start" and estimate where you will stop. All the time, you are pushing the peg in.
Very important: look at how the wound strings are wrapped against the pegbox wall. This pulls the pegs inward. You can reposition the winding with
your fingernail.
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Yaron- can u make Oud stand ?
Yaron hi
Can u make oud stand like this in the pic ?
I tryed to find yr email
Ofer
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Yaron Naor
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Yes Ofer, I can, just send me a mail or call me
Ibisyn@gmail.com
0547655797
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