Midi tool for arabic scales

Hi fellow oudistas

for all of you who do recordings and use midi(VST)instruments.

There is a very good and easy-to-handle tool for FREE.

It includes some good sounding instruments exept the oud,but, who needs a virtual oud ,and a bit of percussion.

Here is the link:http://www.httmusic.com/productshtp3.html

Hope its useful for some of you/us!!

Regards from rainy germany,

Marcus

Hi Marcus, yes it's a great vsti that one, I've been using it for a while now, the sounds aren't too bad, especially if you blend a few together using a couple of Sika's on different tracks. I can highly recommend it, the price is definitely right, can't go spending money on vsti's when there are so many ouds still to get!

Hi Sazi

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can't go spending money on vsti's when there are so many ouds still to get!

hehe, like its written under our usernames.......we are all oud-junkies (and proud of it )

Cheers,

Marcus

Nice Tip, thanks ... the Nay might be an interesting addition after I got a real Tar now

Too bad, that there's only a Riq loop ... seems I need to buy a real one too

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Too bad, that there's only a Riq loop ... seems I need to buy a real one too

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Check out the Darbuka programs from the same company, one (Lite) is free.

Thanks, I already did, but was a bit disappointed ... this VSTi is very different from all others (using a MIDI file) and so far I was only able to use the demo loops ... one of the reasons, why I bought a real Tar (18" tuned in F)

A further reason is, that I was a drummer in a band many years ago. Though the technique with framedrums is very different from all percussion I played before, I get it going relatively fast and it's much fun. And as always ... real instruments blow away the virtual ones.

BTW ... HERE I found a great Tar player ... very inspiring ... but I will need further weeks to get to that level.

You`re right.I like the sound of my real darbuka much more than the virtual one....but I will need further weeks to learn how to play the darbuka and the oud at the same time!!

Cheers,

Marcus

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...but I will need further weeks to learn how to play the darbuka and the oud at the same time!!

How about THIS solution? Your VST host application (Reaper, Cubase, etc.) can not only be your recording software, but be your virtual band too. Do you know the band DuOud? Search for them at Youtube and you will see, how they do that even on stage.

That's easier than learning to play Darbuka with your feet, while playing oud with your hands

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I guess you know how boring a step-by-step recording with a band can be!? Multitrack recordings are worse for me!!

Yes, I know that. It can be boring, but it doesn't have to.

I do it that way, that I improve my recordings step by step. I begin with a basic rhythm track (percussion, bass or oud) and loop it. Then I listen to it by headphones and play oud to compose the song further or to get new ideas. Even playing to a percussion rhythm is more fun than playing alone ... not always, but often.

After the second track is recorded, I work on the third or improve the first ... it depends on my ideas ... you know, that ideas can change while composing. And because Reaper is very powerful and recordings can also be copied to new positions, arranging a new song isn't that boring ... you are not only the musician in the studio being bored by playing a take several times until it fits, but you are the master mind, who does all ... you are musician, composer and sound engineer in one person.

If your not composing, but playing known songs, it's even easier ... record the rhythm section and play the melody part live.

I bet I don't tell you anything new here

So if you get used to the recording software, it even makes a lot of fun ... though it's a bit challenging in the beginning, it makes more and more fun to hear the song improving, be it because of more tracks or because of a few effects (e.g. reverb), that let the song come to live.

Important is, that you have a software, which has a good community so you're not lost alone with upcoming questions ... you need to get familiar to it ... Reaper & Cubase have it for example.

So the question is ... why do you hate it being not only musician, but producer too? Is it impossible for you to begin loving the sound engineering too?

Aymara

I use Magix samplitude, it have a good community and online help by the producers.
And yes, its fun to hear how a song developes and improves, but I`m not sooooo patient with getting used to all the possibilitys the software includes. I mostly end up playing the oud and forget about the recording But maybe its just a matter of time that I spend to get used to the software. I allready thought about cancel my 2 bands and spend more time in the "studio", but I`m afraid to end up like some friends on a "lonely planet".
The best solution for me would be to "work" together with someone who`s doing the engineering and implements my ideas.
But it`ll be a dream that never comes true

Time will tell. As soon as I finished a acceptable multitrack-recording I`ll post it here.

Marcus

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But maybe its just a matter of time that I spend to get used to the software.

Me too ... but currently there are so many ideas ... I can't decide where to start. And here it's often a bit difficult to find the right time for microphone recordings to avoid background noise from the street or the neighbours childs

I think I should do it in two steps ... "pre-recordings" in low quality (with background noise) to compose and then exchange these recordings against second takes in top quality.

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Me too ... but currently there are so many ideas ... I can't decide where to start.

Hehe, welcome to home recording!

I have definitely spent more time on unfinished pieces than actually completing something I'm happy with! Too many options and it's so easy to get distracted by all the great or not so great sounds you can come up with, not to mention all the different options for arrangements, and then which hat are you wearing today... the producers hat? the artists hat? the composers hat? the engineers hat? And do all those agree with each other?

Well, me also. There is a bunch of ideas and rehearsels in my pc.
When I started recording a few month ago, I daubt that I`m able to finish even one of them, but than a friend, who is nearly a professional studio-master ,told me to keep cool- the most cd`s with +- 10 tracks need 1 or more years to be finished (from people that do nothing else than music).Me, and probably the most here, have a job,have a family and need to care of all the,mostly unnessesary, things we think we need to be happy and content
I´m 45years now, and I decided that my first uncomercial-just-for-fun-and-friends-cd should be ready on my 50`s birthday

So...lots of time....to relax!!

Quote: Originally posted by Sazi

... which hat are you wearing today... the producers hat? the artists hat? the composers hat? the engineers hat?

Quote: Originally posted by Marcus

... I decided that my first uncomercial-just-for-fun-and-friends-cd should be ready on my 50`s birthday

Mmh, great idea ... oha ... I need to hurry up then ... only two years left