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Tawadros Bros, Abercrombie, Patitucci and DeJohnette – Video

LeeVaris - 5-19-2010 at 08:22 AM

Here's a new video clips from Joseph Tawadros' new album – "The Hour of Separation" - though its not credited on YouTube - I shot all of the video on a Canon 5D mark II DSLR camera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SxGJ1w4BFw

More...

LeeVaris - 5-19-2010 at 08:34 AM

Here's another video - this time its a complete piece, "Forbidden Fruit" the finale of the album... speaks for itself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FLc53xwTtc

:xtreme:

Ararat66 - 5-19-2010 at 09:22 AM

Hi Lee

Great work from everyone

BTW I use the 5D mk2, brilliant camera, what sound device did you use, did you record seperately then mix the audio and video ?

Leon

Aymara - 5-19-2010 at 09:51 AM

Thanks for these wonderful videos. For my taste this CD seems to be a must have. I wish, I would have been in the studio too to take photos, though I only have a 20D.

jass - 5-19-2010 at 10:00 AM

Awesome!

With a little search I can only find the cd to be bought from here: http://www.birdland.com.au/catalogue/category634/p58648

Thanks for the footage Lee!

Aymara - 5-19-2010 at 10:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by jass  

With a little search I can only find the cd to be bought from here: http://www.birdland.com.au/catalogue/category634/p58648


Because it is released on the Enja label, I would expect it to be available nearly everywhere soon, where you can buy Jazz.

Ararat66 - 5-19-2010 at 01:02 PM

Just had another listen now the kids are in bed and I love the way the oud hasn't been compromised by the setting - it is still very 'udi', and the build up through the piece is quite something - but these are all fantastic musicians used to playing responsively.

Leon

Jason - 5-19-2010 at 08:11 PM

Really cool I can't wait to get it once it's available in america. Patitucci is is one of my favorite bassists, I've spent a lot of time deciphering his lines :p

JamesOud - 5-22-2010 at 12:09 AM

Cooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce:

Greg - 5-23-2010 at 10:13 PM

I have the CD and it's wonderful.

I am listening to it now and I am completely blown away. What a great combination of fine musicians. And so well recorded. John Patitucci's double bass sounds INCREDIBLE.

Master Faruk's oud sounds exceptional in this recording. It is a fine instrument from a fine luthier. But, as always, it's the fingers and soul of the player that completes the magic and Joe delivers magic in abundance.

It is hard to believe that five musicians from opposite ends of the world could come together for a two-day recording session and turn out fifteen tracks of such exceptional musical and technical quality.

Mabrouk Joe and James, this is now my favourite of your several albums.

Regards,

Greg

bibo10 - 5-24-2010 at 07:16 AM

Mannnnn, now i am excited

Greg - 5-28-2010 at 04:02 PM

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation's 'Jazz Up Late' featured the track "Fly Away" on their latest programme.

http://www.abc.net.au/classic/jazzuplate/

Just click on 'Listen to the latest program,' and the piece is at 1 hour & 50 minutes.

Regards,

Greg

An Egyptian in New York

bibo10 - 6-1-2010 at 07:37 AM

Hello All

I thought JT fans might be interested in this, it is an article/interview with JT in an Australian newspaper regarding his new album "The Hour of Separation"
Best of luck to you Joe and James

Attachment: Rhythms June 2010 Tawadros.pdf (730kB)
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Aymara - 6-1-2010 at 08:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  
... an article/interview with JT in an Australian newspaper ...


Very interesting, thanks ... I hope it's no Copyright problem to post it here.

bibo10 - 6-1-2010 at 10:22 AM

I hope not ;) hah
I doubt it's a problem, the article is too interesting not to take the risk:airguitar:

Aymara - 6-1-2010 at 11:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  
..., the article is too interesting ...


Definitely, yes.

JT albums now on itunes

bibo10 - 6-3-2010 at 08:43 AM

Hello all,

Just wanted to let you guys know that JT's last album "The Hour of Separation" is now available on itunes. Also Joe's other albums; The Prophet, Epiphany, Angel and Visions will be available as well in few weeks on itunes.

Cheers

Danielo - 6-13-2010 at 06:41 AM

Hi guys,

some update: Joe just gave me the info that all his albums are now on Itunes... enjoy :xtreme:

Aymara - 6-13-2010 at 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Danielo  
... that all his albums are now on Itunes...


Audiophile music on MP3 ... no thanks. I prefer waiting for the europian CD release in September.

fernandraynaud - 6-13-2010 at 08:49 PM

You know, at high bit rates, with the best converters and settings, honestly, I can't hear the difference between a CD and an MP3. If you try a double-blind comparison, it seems very few people can. Given that CDs are only 16 bit at 44.1, and a good MP3 made by pros will usually be created from a 24 bit 48k WAV file, it's not out of the question that a 320 k MP3 might even sound better than a CD. I don't really know where the "break-even" point is. It's like JPG and TIF, hardly anybody bothers with TIF any more.

Aymara - 6-13-2010 at 11:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
You know, at high bit rates, with the best converters and settings, honestly, I can't hear the difference between a CD and an MP3.


Well, as it seems, I have better ears :D

But this is not the only reason. I'm a collector, who wants to have booklet and a CD, which I can play everywhere ... my car hifi isn't MP3 compatible and I don't need a new one, because I hate MP3 ;) I always buy CDs or Vinyl.

fernandraynaud - 6-14-2010 at 11:10 AM

I do understand why you prefer CD, but I'm not sure as to audio quality, there are settings in MP3 compression, like stereo image compromises, that can be bypassed. We'd need some good blind A/B tests with MP3 that are well made.

As for the history of the oud in western music, I just found something last night. I was watching an interview with Speed Caravan's Mehdi Haddab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J4wtJhgXD4

and he mentioned Ganimion, as one of his influences. That blew my mind, as I had that album in 1968 or so, and it made a big impression on me, along with Sandy Bull's use of the oud, also in the late 1960s.

Hamza El Din was Sandy's friend and teacher, it's how Sandy found the oud. Hamza El Din played a Nubian Music that never existed, as they didn't play the oud there at all. He was in Cairo, studying engineering, and picked up the oud, then adapted it to some Nubian "folk songs", but I suspect he made it ALL up. Then the waters of the Aswan Dam covered up the Nubian lands, and only Hamza El Din remained. He was a great performer and became a world emissary for the oud and his mythical Nubian Music, and was a wonderful man. He died a few short years ago in Berkeley.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTpZfV_hHc&feature=related

By our standards today Sandy Bull's oud is not phenomenal technique, but he was a pioneer of "world music", and it's too bad he died recently, before he could be rediscovered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox1p1IU3KGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81lqk0hN1I

This time of discovery in the late 60s was very important, everybody learning from each other, and John Fahey was another important figure at the time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93v6eoTjpig&a=wtppZq4FU0Q&pl...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot5mHAy6zjs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Vtm7IoSKk&feature=related

and let's not forget Leo Kottke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNCTJ6cUmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3kbVp23kk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tew_fIhz3eY&feature=related

Anyway, as to Ganimion, I didn't know much about Middle Eastern music then, but I found his album and I loved it, and the oud was there. The album's name was "Devil's Anvil". Of course, it's on Youtube (isn't EVERYTHING?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-_2FmmXCAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XySi1zCl0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLeBElgVkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCDf8be7rQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6bsgZ-PBc

I'm pretty sure I have the original vinyl album somewhere in my pile of vinyl that I never play any more.

Aymara - 6-14-2010 at 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  

As for the history of the oud in western music, ...


Though not related to JT, very interesting info. I didn't knew that the oud's roots in Rock music go back to the 60ies.

bibo10 - 6-16-2010 at 01:19 PM

Hey Oudists,

Joe's album received 5 star ratings on a music review in Australia. I attached the review. nice to read.

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Aymara - 6-16-2010 at 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  

Joe's album received 5 star ratings on a music review in Australia.


After the US and Europe release I expect similar good CD reviews being written in music press.

bibo10 - 6-22-2010 at 01:32 PM

Here is another one guys

Attachment: SMH_-_Tawadros[1].pdf (142kB)
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Aymara - 6-22-2010 at 11:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  
Here is another one guys


The most interesting statement: Please, may we hear this band live ;)

That would be great ... a world tour :applause:

bibo10 - 6-23-2010 at 05:30 AM

hahah I think LeeVaris posted few tracks before. But yes a world tour would be sweet

Aymara - 6-23-2010 at 05:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  
LeeVaris posted few tracks before.


Yes, his studio videos are great, but imagine a world tour ... stunning :airguitar:

THE HOUR OF SEPARATION available in Europe

bibo10 - 9-9-2010 at 07:53 AM

Hey all,

Just wanted to let you all know that JT's new album, THE HOUR OF SEPARATION is now available for sale in Europe. Please check this link:
http://www.enjarecords.com/cd.php?nr=ENJ-9555

Aymara - 9-12-2010 at 08:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bibo10  
... now available for sale in Europe.


Thanks for the hint ... I'm curious, if I'll find it in local stores in Germany or if I'll have to order it online.