Jewish or Cristian songs with oud accompaniment.

Greek traditioal songs often refes to
christianity and are accompanied by oud.Mostly these are songs from Greeks coming from Istanbul,Izmir e.t.c.
song like that are:
1.exe geia Panagia[(makam ouzal)Itanbul]
2.gel aman[(makam kartziar)Izmir]
3.san ta marmara tis polis[(makam mouxagier)Itanbul]
I found this informations from a Greek book for oud.I don't have mp3s yet as
soon as I have I'll try to send you(I own a 56 modem witch I hate).
these songs refer to christian subjects to their Lyrics.

You should search for
Haig Yazdjian an Armenian oudist living
in Greece.The man is amazing and sings
beautifully to!!!I'll probably go an watch
his gig on Saturday!!!!!

yes it's Kyriakos book I'm talking about,
I 've been in touch with many music books especially for guitar.And this method very nicely and carefully written!!
I enjoy it a lot.I don't know if there is a vol. 2 book.
I wasn't in thessaloniki perhaps I'll be in the next oud meeting in Greece

Dear friends,
Also try to find the book ,Romii sinthetes tis Smirnis Ke Tis Polis,
This is a book with many semais and sarkis from Greek composers that they have act on the Ottoman empire...from 15th to 17th centuri...
I have it and it is wonderfull book...
Also the ''Mayroeides Byzantine book''
You can see with details all the maqams [DROMI-means ways] and the Elements of the Byzantine musique
Regards to all
Spyros

I'm interested!!!! mitsoulis81@freemail.gr
but the e-mail doesn't have much space!!!
)

john (beloved) habib

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Originally posted by spyros mesogeia Dear friends, Also try to find the book ,Romii sinthetes tis Smirnis Ke Tis Polis, This is a book with many semais and sarkis from Greek composers that they have act on the Ottoman empire...from 15th to 17th centuri... I have it and it is wonderfull book... Also the ''Mayroeides Byzantine book'' You can see with details all the maqams [DROMI-means ways] and the Elements of the Byzantine musique Regards to all Spyros

Dear friend Jameel,
yes this one,has all the maqams,arab and turkish,and compares with the ''dromous'' of the byzantine music and the tetrachords and the pentachords on the makams,ofcourse you personally know that the Byzantine music is much much more dificult,you are ''psaltis''....
Regards and respect my friend

Christmas music

Interesting topic

Wonder how we got to discuss this topic here. I love it.

Jameel u r right about the Tone thing, the plegic 2nd tone (in Greek Hxos tou plegiou deuterou, spellig may be wrong, meaning the brother of the 2nd tone) is also called sixth tone, and represents the hijaz variant Shahnaz (D Eb F# G A Bb C# D), whereas the 2nd tone is huzam (sikah variant), the differences is that the latter is on the mild chromatic scale (as it is called) while the sixth tone is on the harsh chromatic scale.

Spyros I hope u can offer help, do u know any website with Greek Byzantine Church Music scores? Not that I can understand Greek, I can only pronounce, so u'll have to try if u can find anything to explain with as much details as possible, I'm not sure if my browser can translate Greek. Music scores of course are "Eastern" i.e. different than western sheetmusic, with Byzantine notes (the font I have is called Psaltica, but I cant remember if it is the true name). Much thankful for any help, no matter how small it is. if anyone else can help as well I'd be much grateful. Peace y'all.

Yours truly,
Basel

Oud songs.

Spyros

Man, you are so great, and kind-hearted. The fact is, I asked you about sheet music, you shouldnt be worrying about lessons or anything, I have a diploma myself in Byzantine Church Music This actually where half of my knowledge in maqams and eastern music came from. The thing is I am interested in Greek Liturgic pieces and music, and here in Latvia, I couldnt bring my books or the copies provided by my tutor. I have a special predilection for Xatziathanasiou and Pringou. Of course the more I know the better (for me). I might ask you then to just check for the time being different books, give me a brief description along with prices. I have to also regulate my budget + get a new Oud. Thanx a bundle Spyros. Peace

Yours truly,
Basel

P.S. I found a site with some pieces saved as bitmap pics, they should suffice my "need" for some time so u can take ur time man

P.S.

"Traditional Biblical Music"

Hi Maran

Hello Brian

it's always good to hear from you mate, of course oud is a new name but it used to be Lute which what the oud was taken from "do you agree on that?" As far as the lute here are some verses:

Search Results (The New King James Version)


Ps 57:8 Awake, my glory! Awake, lute and harp! I will awaken the dawn.

Ps 71:22 Also with the lute I will praise you-- And Your faithfulness, O my God! To You I will sing with the harp, O Holy One of Israel.

Ps 81:2 Raise a song and strike the timbrel, The pleasant harp with the lute.

Ps 92:3 On an instrument of ten strings, On the lute, And on the harp, With harmonious sound.

Ps 108:2 Awake, lute and harp! I will awaken the dawn.

Ps 150:3 Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet; Praise Him with the lute and harp!

Also please read http://www.albany.net/~dowland/lute.html

http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/history1.htm

Also there was "Lyre" which is simillar to the Bouzouki today - read this link please
http://internet.ana.gr/hermes/1999/julaug/folk.htm

There are also very old pharouhs temples where we could see a very close paintings of the oud on the wall.

Peace mate

Emad from Sydney

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Basel

I found this site with Byzantine-music scores stuff...check it out...

http://www.byzantine-musics.com/byzantinemusictexts.htm

It is unfortunately in Greek...but you will make it

Nikos

Hi TP21

How are you mate? I hope you are doing well.

I thank you for joining in that topic.

Actually, The coptic era has lost lots of it's history writings. writings that go back to the time of Christ even before and lucky that there was still some roman and greek historians who had no motives in keeping/hiding facts. They were only saving the history which made easy today to know what we know about our old coptic culture. In a way I am so thankful to the Arabs because they did not hide the old Coptic christian musical instruments but they have used it thinking that no one will dig in the history


Peace

Emad

Is it me? or is Emad back?

Nice to see you.


Chris

Haha... no, no. Not Emad. But Coptic, nonetheless. There's more than one out there, you know.

TP21

here's a little something

Tobake Ya Mariam

Ya Rab el Qowatt

Ayoha Asaleha

Byzantine Music