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Is this the top secret invention for Maqamat ?

samsamaha - 5-27-2008 at 06:54 PM

قرص الكمال للمقامات الموسيقية


( Al Kamal wheel of Musical Maqamat )


I heard about this invention, never get to see it, any idea what is it, and where to buy it?.

Thanks a million
Sameh

charlie oud - 5-28-2008 at 08:48 AM

Hey Sameh, Not much response to your question yet, hope there will be. Im fascinated by the title but I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have anymore information?. C

samsamaha - 5-28-2008 at 09:15 AM

yes ... in Arabic though!! is it OK with you??

charlie oud - 5-28-2008 at 09:26 AM

I dont speak arabic but am sure there are members that do. Lets hope they can help. C

Amer - 5-28-2008 at 12:39 PM

The translation is not quite accurate..
This is actually a CD/DVD for maqams, etc..

I don't understand why you'd call it "top secret".. You can simply tell us about it, and if it's good enough people will definitely buy it..

samsamaha - 5-28-2008 at 02:23 PM

that is not the CD-DVD one, this is a manual 2-3 wheels or discs if you like to call them, atop of each other that you turn them certain ways to get to the right reading.

Amer - 5-28-2008 at 02:59 PM

uha! I think I know what you're talking about ;)

Is it something like those round sky maps that come with telescopes?! This would be a fantastic idea(if done properly)!!

skymap example:
http://www.wncc.net/courses/aveh/verschie/starfinder.jpg

EDIT:
After searching a little more, I found out that the disc was made and published/sold in 1985 in Syria..
check this out: http://www.arabinventor.org/arabic/pages/inventors/kamal/

samsamaha - 5-28-2008 at 03:27 PM

found it ... and by the way Emailed that man "the inventor" .... I think we will have fun discovering more than one inventor to that thing ...
here is the link for the info ....

http://www.sama3y.net/forum/showpost.php?p=118727&postcount=1

suz_i_dil - 5-29-2008 at 11:08 AM

Thanks for the link
Do you know if it possible to get those discs on the web? I think they can be useful in musical practice.

Amer - 5-31-2008 at 10:56 AM

The discs were only sold in Syria during the 80's..
I think they're already out of print..

I'm 90% positive the wheel is something like Nahat's most famous rosette that includes the maqamat..
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=7238#pid454...