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Oud on Spanish wine bottle.

cjmichael - 12-18-2008 at 01:45 PM

Check out what I found at Whole Foods here in Baton Rouge.

I was really surprised to see this. Can anybody identify the maker? :))

Jameel - 12-18-2008 at 04:25 PM

A wine characterized by a round, full-bodied flavor, with woody notes. :D

Clayton - 12-18-2008 at 10:20 PM

:D ROFLOL :D

DaveH - 12-19-2008 at 12:35 AM

Nice find, CJ. Interestingly enough, Martin Codax was a troubador, which I guess is the reason for the oud. I presume the verse is one of his and it's in Gallego - which is somewhere between spanish and portuguese and still sparsely spoken. Presume the wine is from Galicia?

Just wikid it. He was from Vigo in Galicia and the poem is entitled Mandad'ei comigo:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=GTC5Q93eOSs

nouphar - 12-19-2008 at 08:13 AM

Albariño is a kind of wine from Galicia.

And Galician language is widely used in Galicia of course. It doesn't lies between Portuguese and Spanish, rather both Galician and Portuguese evolved from the Mediaeval Galician-Portuguese language, which extended from Cantabric Sea to Duero River.

Galician-Portuguese is the language in which the Cantigas de Santa María were written. As you know some ouds are depicted in that great work, as well as other instruments like zurna/mizmar, launeddas, tabor pipe, hornpipe, bagpipe, kanun...

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/cantigas/images/all_color.html

Nice topic.

Regards.

P.S. Website for Martín Codax Winery, http://www.martincodax.com/

Nicola - 12-19-2008 at 10:47 AM

The verse is from "Cantigas de Amigo" by Martin Codax XIII century
The cantigas is "Mandad ei comigo"!
Beautifull poem and music!
Have fun with a good glass of wine!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martim_Codax

cantigas de amigo

Boral - 12-19-2008 at 11:10 AM

about cantigas de amigo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantiga_de_amigo

DaveH - 12-20-2008 at 03:39 AM

Sorry nouphar, certainly didn't mean to underrecognise the Galician language, and probably shouldn't have used the word "sparsely".

nouphar - 12-20-2008 at 07:27 AM

Absolutely no problem Dave. In Spain regional languages/dialects are a huge issue themselves!

Regards.

patheslip - 12-20-2008 at 09:04 AM

Nice find. I've a feeling that the original would have been a plectrum lute. Probably with five or fewer courses, gut tied frets and directly taken from the oud of the time.

Galacia is a splendid region. I was walking through there in the sixties, sleeping out in the wilds with the howls of dogs (or wolves) piercing the moonlight. Brilliant.

Marina - 12-20-2008 at 10:05 AM

:rolleyes:

We can learn a lot just from one wine bottle...troubadours, languages, cantigas....

Ronny Andersson - 12-21-2008 at 07:24 AM

silly way to do business