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Dani - 6-16-2004 at 07:06 AM

i am playing with my oud glad to hear your comments :cool:

Zulkarnain - 6-16-2004 at 07:24 AM

Hi

Is it in Maqam Rast? Remind me of Nabil Khalidi...I like the sound of your recording-did you use cool edit?

Salam

Elie Riachi - 6-16-2004 at 09:35 AM

Hi Dani,

Nice but short. How long have you been playing? And what type of oud do you have? It sounds nice. is the reverb natural or just an electronic effect?

Best regards,
Elie

Ronny Andersson - 6-16-2004 at 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Elie Riachi
Hi Dani,

Nice but short. How long have you been playing? And what type of oud do you have? It sounds nice. is the reverb natural or just an electronic effect?

Best regards,
Elie


I think it's an old Nahat.

billkilpatrick - 6-16-2004 at 01:25 PM

very smooth, very moody....intimidatingly good.

in addition to the other questions, what strings do you use?

complimenti - bill

SamirCanada - 6-16-2004 at 08:30 PM

hum.... :cool:
verry nice.
What kind of microphone do you have?
I could never record anything like this on my computer.

My oud

Dani - 6-16-2004 at 11:51 PM

Hi every one!
I have played since 16 and I am 25 today, I have recorded it at home I have a consedator mike, then I just aded little effec, :D
I know that it is short i was just playing at home fore fun, Next time I it will be longer, It nice that you like it :D

I will post more detail and pictures of the oud.:D

Elie Riachi - 6-17-2004 at 07:49 AM

We are waiting :D

Ronny Andersson - 6-20-2004 at 12:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by billkilpatrick
very smooth, very moody....intimidatingly good.

in addition to the other questions, what strings do you use?

complimenti - bill

Bill, this problem of strings is of secondary importance for you. I believe oud players are among the most neurotic people around.

billkilpatrick - 6-20-2004 at 12:44 PM

...oud players are among the most neurotic people around.

...talked to anyone on the lute list lately? i have no way of proving this - just a hunch - but i think playing with a plectrum keeps one sane. problems really start to show "up top" when the pick gets put aside.

there's a sound that some oud players have when performing early european music. it could be a lower tuning, a less embellished style of play or it could be gut strings, i don't know; but the piece that dani posted has this sound.

are we witnessing elevated standards of excellence and a fresh new sound from our swedish vanguard?

hmmm?

ciao - bill

Here you have the oud, 25$ oud

Dani - 6-21-2004 at 01:43 AM

Here it is guys my oud that I played with I bought it frome ebay fore 50$ bu when I got it it was broken so I just paid 25$ fore it, I have fixed it and it sound like that . about the strings I dont now it was with the package......
Quote:
Originally posted by Dani
i am playing with my oud glad to hear your comments :cool:
:D:airguitar::D

Aziz - 6-21-2004 at 02:15 AM

:applause: :applause:
Very good Dani keep going:)

Elie Riachi - 6-21-2004 at 08:27 AM

Great find for $25 friend. Hope it didn't cost much to fix.

Elie

very nice!

Sasha - 6-21-2004 at 05:38 PM

That was very nice - thank you for sharing with us!

Sasha

Ronny Andersson - 6-27-2004 at 01:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by billkilpatrick
...oud players are among the most neurotic people around.

>...talked to anyone on the lute list lately?

behhh....

>i have no way of proving this - just a >hunch - but i think playing with a >plectrum keeps one sane. problems >really start to show "up top" when the <pick gets put aside.

I disagree.

>there's a sound that some oud players >have when performing early european >music. it could be a lower tuning, a less >embellished style of play or it could be <gut strings, i don't know; but the piece <that dani posted has this sound.

I think it's only a question of oud model: I have seen several medieval fantast playing large Maghreb made ouds. Modern reconstructions of early lutes/oud tends to sound very differently a modern oud.


>are we witnessing elevated standards >of excellence and a fresh new sound >from our swedish vanguard?

>hmmm?

Yes. We are less close minded than many other.
Btw, an Italian luthier is building a Bonaiuto vielle for me and I'm working also on a reconstruction of the Cantiga oud. I'm digging in medieval music....


salve

Ronny

billkilpatrick - 7-5-2004 at 11:10 PM

dear ronnie -

a cantiga oud? - as in "cantigas de santa maria"? pray ellucidate.

also, do you know where i can find north african ouds for sale (aside from egyptian, that is)?

salute - bill

ps - please excuse the delay in posting this.

Ronny Andersson - 7-6-2004 at 12:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by billkilpatrick
dear ronnie -

a cantiga oud? - as in "cantigas de santa maria"? pray ellucidate.

also, do you know where i can find north african ouds for sale (aside from egyptian, that is)?

salute - bill

ps - please excuse the delay in posting this.


Yes Bill, the cantiga oud on the attached picture. I have done some reaserches and I hope to start the project now.

North African ouds, are you thinking about the so called Kuitra or east Arabic ouds?

Salve

Ronny

billkilpatrick - 7-6-2004 at 12:50 AM

as always, right after i asked the question i went and found the answer on the "cantigas" site. very exciting ronnie, i hope you'll post some pictures of the oud when its finished.

kuitra, i'm unsure about. what did you have in mind when you said that large, maghreb made ouds produce a medieval sound?

salute (II) - bill

Ronny Andersson - 7-6-2004 at 01:15 AM

The Kuitra is a shot neck lute with a neck that is longer than the one on a standard oud. The neck is also equipped with semi tones frets. Some older ones are very beautifully made with odd materials for decoration at the bridge area and lower end of the bowl. This oud you can find in Maghreb and they are plenty in shops in Tunis (not the old ones).
The east Arabic oud made in Maghreb are many times built of cypress for both bowl and soundboard. Also you can find ouds with soundboards made of Atlas cedar (same as Lebanon cedar). I like these ouds very much and I would recommend you to get one.


Salve

Ronny

billkilpatrick - 7-6-2004 at 01:23 AM

dear santa...

Greg - 11-21-2004 at 08:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dani
.... I bought it frome ebay fore 50$ bu when I got it it was broken so I just paid 25$ fore it, I have fixed it and it sound like that . about the strings I dont now it was with the package......
Quote:


Dani,

Please help me as I am a bit confused :rolleyes:.
Elsewhere on the forum you mention that you have an Anwar Kubeh & Sons Oud that was purchased for you in 1994.
But it appears that the excellent sound sample you attached in this thread was played on a $25 oud you purchased on ebay. Somebody else suggested the instrument used for the recording may have been "an old Nahat."

Congratulations on your wonderful playing and the great tone achieved, but could you please clarify which instrument you used to record the sample?

Regards,

Greg

Zulkarnain - 11-21-2004 at 10:03 PM

Hi Greg

From what I understand, he is using the $25 ebay Oud and record his playing with some effect over it :)


Salam

Ronny Andersson - 11-22-2004 at 10:47 AM

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Dani,
. Somebody else suggested the instrument used for the recording may have been "an old Nahat."
Regards,
Greg


Dani played on his piece of crap he bought on E-Bay.

Jonathan - 11-22-2004 at 12:17 PM

OK, I realize that I am a relative newcomer here, but jeez, those words seem really harsh. Most importantly, the oud sounds really good. In the end, it is the player's talent that counts, and Dani plays his oud very well. To dismiss anybody's oud as a "piece of crap" just seems out of line. And, I really think that sometimes we equate an oud's price tag with it's worth. Sometimes that is the case, but often it is not.

Ronny Andersson - 11-22-2004 at 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
OK, I realize that I am a relative newcomer here, but jeez, those words seem really harsh. Most importantly, the oud sounds really good. In the end, it is the player's talent that counts, and Dani plays his oud very well. To dismiss anybody's oud as a "piece of crap" just seems out of line. And, I really think that sometimes we equate an oud's price tag with it's worth. Sometimes that is the case, but often it is not.



Well, I know what you are hunting for Jonathan, but my Dani is my friend here in Sweden and he knows what I'm talking about and it was intended for him. In fact I give him oud lections.

Jonathan - 11-22-2004 at 12:29 PM

Sorry. I took it the wrong way.
All the best.
Jonathan

Ronny Andersson - 11-22-2004 at 12:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan
Sorry. I took it the wrong way.
All the best.
Jonathan


No problem!:D

Greg - 11-22-2004 at 04:54 PM

Ronny's concise but descriptive assessment of the quality of the pictured instrument confirms what I had been thinking.

But just like the old adage says, "looks aren't everything."

If such wonderful tone can be achieved on such a humble instrument, we are all wasting our money by buying more expensive instruments.

Dani (or Ronny), could you please provide more detail on where and by whom this instrument was made? I would like to buy one.

Regards,

Greg

Ronny Andersson - 11-22-2004 at 11:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Greg
Ronny's concise but descriptive assessment of the quality of the pictured instrument confirms what I had been thinking.

But just like the old adage says, "looks aren't everything."

If such wonderful tone can be achieved on such a humble instrument, we are all wasting our money by buying more expensive instruments.

Dani (or Ronny), could you please provide more detail on where and by whom this instrument was made? I would like to buy one.

Regards,

Greg


Since Dani is away I take the freedom to inform you that he is still very dissapointed
over the oud. Dani is a very good sound engineer and any oud in his hands sound good after while. He have lot of good recording equipment and knowledge. If you don't use this recording equipment this oud would bee dead in sound.
This particular oud is not worth any money and I can't recommend an oud that falls apart not even for a beginner .