John Erlich - 9-3-2009 at 03:39 PM
Greetings fellow Near Eastern culture freaks,
I recently came across this statement on Wikipedia, while looking up lyrics for the Celtic/Anglo folk song (sea chanty), "What Shall We Do With a
Drunker Sailor?":
"A Turkish bank, Ziraat Bankası, uses an instrumental version of the song played with classical Turkish instruments in one of their recent
commercials." [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Sailor]
Is this true? Or does the bank commercial just use a Turkish song with a similar melody? I would love to hear this commercial, either way.
Here is an Irish version of the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby7cH3kl6M&feature=related
Teşekkürler in advance!
Peace, Ramadan Mubarak, and Shana Tovah,
John
Jack_Campin - 9-6-2009 at 03:05 PM
There's no evidence that the Irish song is older. It might well have come from the shanty. And shanties were produced by sailors in an age when
almost all ships' crews were multinational. The tune could have come from anywhere. Dorian = huseyni, more or less - could even have been Turkish.
John Erlich - 9-8-2009 at 09:18 AM
Hi Jack,
Is there an Irish song which uses the same melody but different lyrics? The Irish version which I posted a link to IS the sea shanty.
Your point about the international character of ship crews is well-taken.
I am still curious to hear the Ziraat Bankası commercial.
Anyone?
Thanks,
John
arsene - 9-9-2009 at 02:28 PM
Can't seem to find it on YouTube... found this tho,
http://isgucenerji.blogspot.com/2009/03/ziraat-bankasnn-yeni-reklam...
and
http://sozluk.sourtimes.org/?t=ziraat+bankası+reklamı
they seem to talk about it, but no link...
maybe someone with a better knowledge of turkish can find some answers?
John Erlich - 9-10-2009 at 12:33 PM
Thanks!
-J
Jack_Campin - 9-11-2009 at 02:49 PM
The Irish song sometimes thought to be the original is "Oro se do bheatha 'bhaile", which seems to date from some indeterminate time in the 19th
century, like the shanty.
(I'll come back to this - can't do YouTube on this computer).
Sasha - 9-12-2009 at 12:05 AM
The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem - a classic version from 1962 - and the version I learned it from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZdRgQLLCgs