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How to fix a Crack/Dent on the Bowl of an Oud OUCH!!

FLIPAX - 11-10-2009 at 07:43 AM


Hi!:wavey:

Can Somebody Help Me how can I Fix Damage on my Oud!:shrug:

I accidentally bang the Side of the Bowl to my side panel door of my car. Ouch!!!! Ouch!! I have a Soft case but it still had a mark.

I hope it can be fixed I need Some Help all You Professional Oudist and Luthiers here in the site. Mr Faruk Turunz, Jameel, Dr.Oud, sabbassi, Alami and others not mentioned.

I hope I Can remedy the destruction I made on my Oud..

I almost cried last night when I saw the crack. OMG!:(

Is there any way to prevent this to not make the crack bigger in the future. Hopefully its not going to be larger.

My Thoughts are:

1. I think the crack line(white line) is from the laquer or finish that had been broken.

2. If You feel and touch the crack. Basically I can feel a dent line going inside but not that depth.

3. I hope its just the Paint that crack. But it very annoying to see that white crack line. Hopefully its not very deep into the wood.

I'm very sad about what happen.

I want to know if this crack will be longer or bigger in the following years..........


Your comments and advise would be most appreciated.......

Please Help Me...........


Is there Anyway I can erase that crack line?

Thanks Guys........:applause:

Greetings from Dubai

Philip:airguitar:

P.S: Its Very difficult to take a decent picture. Its not as clear but I hope You all See the crack.

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Aymara - 11-10-2009 at 09:45 AM

Hi Philip,

it's a bit hard to see ... the camera didn't focus correctly on the "crack", but in front or the background.

As it seems, it's only a dent in the varnish, maybe slightly in the wood too ... nothing that will get bigger, I think.

I would expect, that it should be possible to make it unvisible with colored varnish ... you got luck, I think, it's only a small line.

But better photos would be helpful first to see, if my thesis is correct. Try the following ... hold a single page of a newspaper plane besides the "crack". That helps the camera's autofocus to focus on the right place and not in front. And use more light, that the cam uses a smaller aperture, which gives more depth of field ... "sharper image".

Dr. Oud - 11-10-2009 at 10:09 AM

first you need to identify what the finish is so that the repair is compatible. Frets.com has some good instruction for identifying and repairing finishes - scroll down to the finish links.

FLIPAX - 11-10-2009 at 12:44 PM

Thanks Dr. OUd!:applause:

I'm still not that brave enough......

Anybody has Bright Ideas?:shrug:

Thanks

Philip:airguitar:

Aymara - 11-10-2009 at 01:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  

Anybody has Bright Ideas?:shrug:


Yes, show us sharper photos first ;)

FLIPAX - 11-10-2009 at 01:18 PM

Oops Sorry Chris My Bad.......:D

Tomorrow I'll Try to get a better pictures.

Thanks Again mate!:bounce:

Philip:airguitar:

Aymara - 11-10-2009 at 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  

Tomorrow I'll Try to get a better pictures.


Yep ... the more light, the better. I think it's better to first see the dent as good as possible. Check out if your cam has a macro mode, so that you can get as close as possible.

fernandraynaud - 11-10-2009 at 05:31 PM

Ideally super macro mode and good lighting from an angle so we can really see how deep it is.

From superficial photos like these it could be anything from "impact deeply punched in the rib so that it cracked the varnish", to "the top varnish layer barely scratched".

SamirCanada - 11-11-2009 at 04:40 AM

take it back to Maurice's shop. Its to nice a oud to do it yourself unless your an expert refinisher.

FLIPAX - 11-11-2009 at 04:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SamirCanada  
take it back to Maurice's shop. Its to nice a oud to do it yourself unless your an expert refinisher.


Yup Your Right! :applause: Samir

I'm not Professional Refinisher:(

And I'm Not That Brave and Good Repairman....

Thanks Samir,

Philip:airguitar:

Luttgutt - 11-11-2009 at 05:41 AM

:( :( :(

Too bad man!
A couple of mounthes ago I did the same to my NEW oud! Crack on the first rib. And mine was 40 cm!!

I followed up on Dr. oud, and Jdowning advise (thanks again :)) and all worked fine!

Good luck

FLIPAX - 11-11-2009 at 06:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Luttgutt  

Crack on the first rib. And mine was 40 cm!!


I know its a pain to see the crack everyday when I play the Oud.

:(:(:(

My Only Thing about this is Hopefully It does not become Bigger and Find Something To Erase that Line.

:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Should I Paint It ? or sand it then Buffer?

Not Sure Though.............

Thanks Anyway for the sympathy Guys!!

Philip:wavey:

Aymara - 11-11-2009 at 10:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  
... its a pain to see the crack everyday when I play the Oud.


Yes, it's at the wrong side ;) Ok, that was a bad joke ... I hope you have a sense for sarcasm.
Quote:
My Only Thing about this is Hopefully It does not become Bigger and Find Something To Erase that Line.


I don't think so, but hey ... where are the better photos? Any photography problems, I might help with?
Quote:
Should I Paint It ? or sand it then Buffer?


I would make better photos and email them to Mr. Shehata ... let's hear, what the master recommends, don't you think so?

FLIPAX - 11-12-2009 at 09:48 AM

Hi!:wavey:

I will Ask The Mr. maurice regarding this Problem.

But Still I need to fly To cairo in order for him to fix it on his shop.

Maybe I can Go to Qatar. Maurice was visiting there Last week.

Hmmmm

P:S:

I need to save money for the ticket.

Any More Suggestions Guys?

Thanks

Philip:airguitar:

Aymara - 11-12-2009 at 10:01 AM

Hi Philip!
Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  
Any More Suggestions Guys?


Still ... better photos!

FLIPAX - 11-13-2009 at 07:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Aymara  


Still ... better photos!


Sorry Chris! :shrug:

I can get a decent shot of this bloody scratch....

I'll ask my cousin he's a photographer. Maybe he can help me.

Thanks Guys for your support!:applause:

Philip:airguitar:

joklany - 11-23-2009 at 06:07 AM

Hi Philip

I also live in Dubai.

Try to speak to Nasser at Music Chamber ( 04 3316416) in the Crown Plaza building and see if he can help you. You can tell Nasser that I gave you his number.

If Nasser cannot help, there is a lebanese guy at Sadiq Music shop in Midenah Jumeirah who may be able to help you. I think his name is Charlie (not sure though). Sadiq Music shop have a workshop in Sharjeh where they make ouds.

Good luck

Jaafar

FLIPAX - 11-23-2009 at 06:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by joklany  


I also live in Dubai.



Hey Jaafar!:wavey:

Thanks Man!:applause:

Hey Can we meet?

U2U me and I will Give My telephone number so we can hang-out. Here and Play some Oud.:xtreme:

Maybe you can give me oud lessons. I'm looking for a teacher.:D

Thanks

Philip:airguitar:

joklany - 11-24-2009 at 04:48 AM

Hi Philip

I just sent you a u2u message.

Regards
Jaafar

FLIPAX - 12-3-2009 at 05:30 PM

Thanks Jaafar!:applause:

Music chamber is closed for the holidays.

I will Try with them next week.

Cheers

Philip:airguitar:

Anybody has an advise what to do on this dent?