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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 11:07 AM
HELP! Repair advice urgently needed


Hi there, I recently posted two contributions concerning my newly aquired Khidor Mostafa Daghir Oud and some sucessful repairs I could improvise on it.

First of all please excue me if I miss some correct english technical terms...

Now, I was bothered by some weird sounds appearing at certain pitches. They sound like on odd resonance in the top.

I started to look for the source and first I thoght it might be a plectrum protection plate coming loose, but then I knocked on the top and found that it sounds like some loose bracings under the top.

Removing the top would be extremely work intensive because of the rim inlays.

So my request for advice is this:

1. WOuld it be considerable to glue the bracing through the main sound hole after removing the rosette?

2. How to remove the rosette without destroying it?

I will appreciate any advice or experience on that...

Somehow I like thos oud as it hjas a very deep sound comming straight from the belly;).

I attach some pics of the oud:

Thanks in advance
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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 11:10 AM


Here a second pic
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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 11:29 AM


here is the rosette
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[*] posted on 7-16-2008 at 11:00 PM


Hi Rojaros, I cant help you with the braceing but this is how you remove the rosette. You will need a knife with a flexible blade, an artist's pallette knife is ideal. Using an opened out paper clip with a piece of string tied to it, thread the piece of string through the rosette. This will be your way of not allowing the rosette to fall into the bowl. 1) Heat the tip of the blade using an iron or hot plate. You want it very hot but not hot enough to burn the wood. 2) Insert the hot blade gently between the rosette and sound board and gradually melt away the glue. 3) There will be a gap somewhere around the edge of the rosette which makes it removeable. Good luck.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 01:14 PM


Hi and thanks for advice;
menawhile I went to a local violin builder and got essentially the same teaching on removing the rosette.

Which I did - halfways successfully - there were some little rests of the top wood sticking to the rosette, maybe because of the glue they had used, maybe becaus I was working to forcefully or to fast or the knife wasn't hot enough???

Anyway, the rosette was removed and here came the surprise: NO BUZZ whatsoever! It was the rosette itself that wasn't glued properly and caused all the trouble!

Now I glued the rosette back with titebond and everything is just fine and the soudn improved 200% with all the nonlinear interferences missing...

morale: be courageous!

Thanks to everybody who spent energy on thinking how to solve that problem!:wavey:
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