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[*] posted on 7-7-2006 at 04:35 AM
Purfling, revisited


When I was making my first oud, I had a lot of trouble with the thin purfling strips between the ribs. I got a lot of help from Dincer, Hank, and others.
I want to ask for any more tips.
Here has been my approach:
Set the first bent rib. Then, glue on purfling strips to each side of that rib after you have somehow managed to bend them to shape. I use tape to hold the purfling onto the rib while the glue dries. Then, I place the next rib.
Unfortunately, I always end up introducing small errors allong the was when I add that purfling strip, and the fit of the next rib becomes more problematic.
Dincer's approach seems reasonable (setting the rib, putting the next shaped rib next to it but not set, and then using a hot iron to push the purfling into the space), but I have a hard time getting the purfling to stay in the same plane as the rib itself--it's trickier than it looks for me, but, of course, Dincer is a master, and it might just be a matter of me learning the technique. It might help if I built one of those solid moulds/forms like Turunz or Kyvelos, but I guess I am trying to avoid that---I just built two traditional moulds, and I want to use them.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.




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[*] posted on 7-7-2006 at 08:03 AM


I always bent the purfling/strips just like the ribs, then glued them in as I assembled each rib, but I don't even use a mold. It would seem to me that you would need a solid mold to use Dincer's iron-in method, otherwise the purfling would just squirt into the gaps between the bulkheads of your bulkhead mold. I suppose you could use the heat blanket bender machine, but you'd need to clamp a bunch of strips together somwhow or they would probably twist.



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[*] posted on 7-7-2006 at 03:24 PM


Didn't Hank once mention tying a whole bunch of lines together with thread and bending them as if they were a single rib?



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[*] posted on 7-7-2006 at 05:36 PM


Thanks, guys. Doc, I agree with you--I think a solid mould would help with Dincer's approach, but it looks like on his site he is using a traditional mould. That's the problem I am having--it only stays in the right plane at the bulkheads.
I have tried Hanks approach, but I still end up getting the twisting.
I think my problem may just be that I am having more difficulty because the purfling is so narrow.
I actually scrapped my project (6 ribs down), and I am going to restart it, but, this time, use a thicker purflling. One wood, maybe 1/8 inch wide or a little wider, and I will try to treat it just like a rib--sanding it just like a rib.
I appreciate your help.




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[*] posted on 7-7-2006 at 08:06 PM


Wouldnt the open holes between the bulkheads allow you to get in there with your other hand and push agains the purfling being Ironed down? With another tool like a smooth peice of metal sheet that's been rounded off. Just a suggestion.
The trick part would be to get the bowl held, so you can work with both your hands free. Jameel's marine CB radio holder could do the trick if mounted right.
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[*] posted on 7-8-2006 at 03:03 AM


Yes, you can do that Samir. I guess the problem is that in so doing, I mess up the angle a bit.
If the purfling does not lie exactly flat against the adjacent rib, the angle is off, and the next rib is tough to fit. Also, if any little drops of glue wind up on the outside of the purfling, the next rib is going to be tough to fit. It really is not possible to sand it down after it has dried in place, becuse the purfling is so thin (at least the stuff I have been using).




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