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Jameel
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Oud Challenge-Identify this artist
Who's playing the oud here?
What's the album?
Hayyart Albi
Lessa Fakir
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Mike
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My guess would be Said Salam.
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Who's the artist
Hey Jameel,
This is your friend Spyros C.
Sounds like Al Sunbati
Wasn't "lissa faker" also sung by Um Kulthum ?
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Spyros C.
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Jameel
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Hi Sypros.
Yes, these are songs by Sunbati, (who composed many of OK's best songs) but I don't think he is the performer. It's not quite his
style.
Maybe I should calrify.
I downloaded these songs a year or two ago from a now-defunct website.
I have no idea who is playing. I would like to find the CD. I hope there is someone out there who knows.......
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elrabee3
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those songs composed by el Sunbati, but i m sure the oud player is not him, el sunbati style is totlay differnet. as almogi said once, if riad el
sunbati played on his oud, u dont any orchestra with him, his oud is enough 
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elrabee3
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BTW, what is the maqam of those two songs, i think the maqam of "Lessah Faker" is ajam, correct me if i am worng.
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Hey everybody,
Jameel, I wrote the wrong name for my guess. I meant Said Issa, and not Said Salam. I got the names confused. Said Issa has four Oud CDs out. They are
mainly remakes of famous songs. I have one of them, but I can't remember if Lessa Faker and Hayyart Albi was on it. Anyway, I'll check the
CD to make sure. But I can tell you that no information about Said Issa is on the CD insert! 
Take care,
Mike
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With all due respect, I haven't been listening to Um Kulthoum for that long, maybe just about a year (I'm a young'n), but this
isn't Sunbati's piece (I'm referring to Hayyart Albi). It's el-Moghi's "Esal Rohak."
Am I wrong?
TP21
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http://almashriq.hiof.no/egypt/700/780/umKoulthoum/Songs/
That page tells you the composer, the maqam, and the poet of every Om Kulthum song.
I got my own challenge question: Why is Riad Al Sunbati's last name sometimes spelled with an "m" (Soumbati)? In arabic, it is
usually spelled with the "n"
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TruePharaoh21
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I'm not saying that Hayyart Albi isn't Sunbati's... I'm saying the song isn't Hayyart Albi...
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Sorry, I got it now, I'll look into it, I have it somewhere on this computer . . .
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I didn't mean to come off so abrupt, Sam. I may be wrong, I'm not sure. But I think it is Esal Rohak.
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Whatever it is, the melody doesn't match to Um Kalthum's version
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Jameel
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The song I called Hayyart Albi, (I heaven't heard OK's version) is simply what it was labeled as when I downloaded it.....
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elrabee3
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i agree with TP21 , that song is not Hayrt Albi.
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TruePharaoh21
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It's all good, Jameel. The site made the mistake. Thanks for bringing the clip to us though, man.
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while we are talking about Umm Kolthom songs, can anyone tell me who is the oud player in Umm Kolthom songs "Is'al ruhak" ??
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TruePharaoh21
It's all good, Jameel. The site made the mistake. Thanks for bringing the clip to us though, man. |
Thanks TP21. A couple more of those songs on my site are also mislabled. I suppose too that some of the songs could simply use the original songs
themselves as inspiration and use the same title. This seems a bit plagueristic to me, but it explains why some of the songs don't match the
name.
On another note, I really like some of these songs and especially the oud playing in them. This thread got a bit off subject, but I hope that someone
out there can still identify this music. I'd like to have the CD since some of the tracks I have are incomplete.
One other comment. For all of you that don't have Rahbani's "Bil Afrah" album. What are you waiting for?? 
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Again, another 6 months have passed since anyone responded to this one. Has anyone figured out who the player is in these clips? Jameel, were the
clips from a CD? If so, what was the name of the CD? Perhaps if it doesn't say it on the CD, we can search around the internet some more.
TP21
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Hi
I have a similar collection of "Instrumental Oud" playing only Oum Khulthum's songs-Both front cover have Mr. Sunbathi picture and the
playing style is pretty much the same style as those 2 clips that Jameel post. Sadly theres also no description about who is playing the Oud for this
recording! I dont think its Mr. Sunbathi playing as the mix of the recording sound very new and modern-I will try to post the front cover images and
also try to ask around when Im in Cairo later this month-regards
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Hey Zul, while you're there, try to find some rare Sunbati taqsim clips for us. It'd be nice, man.
TP21
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Hi
I think the intro takasim of the first clip is in maqam Rast (F)-anyone?
Salam
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Will do!!
Salam
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You got it, Zul. It's a fun piece to play along to, too.
TP21
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Hi
Long time been waiting stuff like this to be discuss here! More of playing technique and more of how to perform the takasim in various maqams!
Lets bring out all the Oud players out man!!
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