joklany
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learning by ear
Hello all
To those who learnt (are learning) by ear, I was wondering how do you actually practice?! What type of drills do you do and how?
The reason behind my question is that I am weak on intonation (?) and hitting the notes accurately. I would think learning by ear would accustom one
to listen and hit the correct note.
I hope I am making sense here!
Best regards
Jaafar
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ameer
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First thing I would say is listen a lot. Try to differentiate between the intonations in different maqamat I.E. bayati versus kurd, followed by bayati
versus rast. Then try to play along with whatever you like; that should at least give you some idea on how accurate you are.
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joklany
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Hi Ameer
Thanks for the tip. The difficulty I have is to recognise that my finger is off the target note by say one tenth of a note or say by 1-2 milimeter
from the correct note position. Both my wife who plays the piano and my teacher can immediatly spot that I am off. As for me, I can reconise if I am
off by say quarter of note but to be honest, it is very hard for my ear at this moment to recognise that I am off by one tenth of a note!
Thanks again
Jaafar
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suz_i_dil
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For practicing by ear I'm actually using transcribe program, it allow to transpose and slow down music.
I learned a lot of pieces by this way, the better way to learn how to make the interpretation. My learning was poor while using only music sheet.
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bibo10
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Suz,
What is that software, it would be very helpful
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Michael-GOD BLESS EGYPT
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dubai244
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Salam Jaafar,
I learned oud by listening when i started playing oud. Mainly, i was listening to oud taksim and guitar music beside the songs.
To tune your ears, you have to listen to a music that you like and then try to copy paste that music in your oud. Start with basic music such as a
song that you really like or part of that song that you really love. and after you know how to play it, practice it 100s times if you can.
Myself, i have been listening to munir bashir last 15 years and i am still listening to him. And if i want to learn one of his music, i listen to it
100 times, and every where, in the car and in my mobile phone ... etc. I managed to playing "flying Birds" music piece but i didnt nailed it yet.
Beside that, You have Bait Al oud music institute in Abu-Dhabi. And I hade visited that Bait Al oud and I am sure you will learn a lot if you go
there. The institute has really friendly eniourment and they can improve to advance level.
If need any information about them, let me know
Thanks
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Aymara
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Hi!
Then it might be useful to make temporary markings to the side of the neck, similar to guitar frets ... look at a guitar neck ... it has similar
markings.
Your teacher might help you to correctly position such markings.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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suz_i_dil
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the software is here:
http://www.seventhstring.com/
I never tried the way described by Dubai but sure I will, I think this one is the best to get your own way of interpretation, with my way I learn a
lot but sometimes I paste to much the way of the record.
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joklany
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Many thanks to all for the comments and tips.
Dear Dubai244, special Thanks for the info regarding Beit Al Oud. I will definitly visit them. Also, your method of learning is very interesting.
Wow to be able to follow the flying bird by ear! Well done!
Regards
Jaafar
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farid
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A small exercice also to learn note by note, when you tune your instrument try to tune it without tuner (as it is possible). Focus your attention on
the sound and you can verify after with an oud tuner in order to not use it later. This small exercice is a good pracice for your ears to recognize
notes of your instrument an in general music. Hope you understand "maybe" my strange english. I practice in listening to 
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Aymara
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A different approach would be to use a tuner to check how accurate the played notes are ... that might be a good training for the ear too.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Arab Instrument
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Why not to use this tuner?
http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Online-Oud-Tuner
Thanks
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Aymara
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Because it is acoustically based, it presumes, that you already have a trained ear.
If you need to train your ear first, a visually based tuner seems to be the better choice in my opinion, especially for fine tuning.
And if you want to check out, if you grip correctly, a visually based tuner is the only choice.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Marcus
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Not allways online
Because I have to be online. But it would be very nice if you would put a downloadable offline copy here on the
board!!
The forum-members visit your website anyway if you post something in the "buy&sell".
Anyhow, its a very usable and well designed tool for oudist`s.
Thank you!!
Marcus
Playing the oud is like feeding my soul with peace
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