Johnnyboy
Oud Maniac
Posts: 63
Registered: 7-1-2007
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Small question regarding pegs
Hello,
I've got a short question regarding the causing factors of pegs being hard to turn in the pegbox of the ud. I noticed that temperature/humidity
changes, wood type and the way the strings are wrapped around the pegs inside the pegbox might be contributing factors to this.
However, apart from those factors, do pegs also get harder to turn in some way as the oud ages with time?
|
|
|
Dr. Oud
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1370
Registered: 12-18-2002
Location: Sacramento, CA, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: better than before
|
|
If the peg is softer than the peg box wall, it will deform and make it slip. if the peg is sticking but fits snugly at both ends, it's a friction
problem. Get some peg conditioner or dope from a violin dealer. put a thin line around the peg shaft where it wears in the wall (it woill look
shiney). Forget the chalk/soap/graphite method, you never get the mixture right. Buy some dope, I like Hill, it comes in a tube like lipstick, looks
like a brown crayon.
|
|
|
Jody Stecher
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1378
Registered: 11-5-2011
Location: California
Member Is Offline
|
|
I use Hill peg dope on all my instruments with wood friction pegs, including oud. It works. And i don't get chalk all over my hands and clothes
either.
|
|
|
MattOud
Oud Junkie
Posts: 298
Registered: 1-18-2017
Location: Ontario, Canada
Member Is Offline
Mood: Feeling Pretty G'Oud
|
|
Hill's is good stuff. I used it from the start and have not had to use it again on my pegs. It seemed to be needed once initially, and then you are
good for a while....
In canada, i bought mine at Long and Mcquade. It is very cheap.
|
|
|
Johnnyboy
Oud Maniac
Posts: 63
Registered: 7-1-2007
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Dr. Oud  | | If the peg is softer than the peg box wall, it will deform and make it slip. if the peg is sticking but fits snugly at both ends, it's a friction
problem. Get some peg conditioner or dope from a violin dealer. put a thin line around the peg shaft where it wears in the wall (it woill look
shiney). Forget the chalk/soap/graphite method, you never get the mixture right. Buy some dope, I like Hill, it comes in a tube like lipstick, looks
like a brown crayon. |
Thanks for the info. I was more curious about the consequences of aging rather than any treatment. So aging usually leads to slipping instead of being
stuck? Or does aging also lead to increased friction?
|
|
|
Brian Prunka
Oud Junkie
Posts: 2951
Registered: 1-30-2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Member Is Offline
Mood: Stringish
|
|
Aging doesn't lead to anything in particular. The pegs may end up wearing down the holes a bit and so slide a bit deeper in but this shouldn't result
in it being tighter or more prone to slippage as long as the pegs are fit correctly to begin with.
If the pegs are poorly made, then as they move they may fit even worse, I guess. Also poor quality pegs of soft wood may deform slightly over
time.
So the answer to your original question is: generally, no, the pegs do not get harder to turn with age.
| Quote: Originally posted by Johnnyboy | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr. Oud | | If the peg is softer than the peg box wall, it will deform and make it slip. if the peg is sticking but fits snugly at both ends, it's a friction
problem. Get some peg conditioner or dope from a violin dealer. put a thin line around the peg shaft where it wears in the wall (it woill look
shiney). Forget the chalk/soap/graphite method, you never get the mixture right. Buy some dope, I like Hill, it comes in a tube like lipstick, looks
like a brown crayon. |
Thanks for the info. I was more curious about the consequences of aging rather than any treatment. So aging usually leads to slipping instead of being
stuck? Or does aging also lead to increased friction? |
|
|
|
Johnnyboy
Oud Maniac
Posts: 63
Registered: 7-1-2007
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
| Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka | Aging doesn't lead to anything in particular. The pegs may end up wearing down the holes a bit and so slide a bit deeper in but this shouldn't result
in it being tighter or more prone to slippage as long as the pegs are fit correctly to begin with.
If the pegs are poorly made, then as they move they may fit even worse, I guess. Also poor quality pegs of soft wood may deform slightly over
time.
So the answer to your original question is: generally, no, the pegs do not get harder to turn with age.
| Quote: Originally posted by Johnnyboy | | Quote: Originally posted by Dr. Oud | | If the peg is softer than the peg box wall, it will deform and make it slip. if the peg is sticking but fits snugly at both ends, it's a friction
problem. Get some peg conditioner or dope from a violin dealer. put a thin line around the peg shaft where it wears in the wall (it woill look
shiney). Forget the chalk/soap/graphite method, you never get the mixture right. Buy some dope, I like Hill, it comes in a tube like lipstick, looks
like a brown crayon. |
Thanks for the info. I was more curious about the consequences of aging rather than any treatment. So aging usually leads to slipping instead of being
stuck? Or does aging also lead to increased friction? |
|
Thanks a lot for the info! My question is answered. 
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xmbprobrown/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
