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FLIPAX - 10-13-2009 at 04:28 PM

Marhaba, :wavey:

Hi I'm Philip. Just New Here. I Just want to share some Pictures of my New Oud From Mr Maurice Shehata.

I Just Want to Share the New Fixed Bridge Design for my oud. Its Cool The Sound is Like a Crossover Sound of a Floating bridge + turkish Sound. But Still has an Arabic sound on the Wound Strings Strings.

Amazingly the Sound of the nylon trebles Creates like a "Twangy buzzly" good sound for my ear. But off course no Buzz on the Oud its Just getting a harmonic snap I Supposed.

Looks Like a Hybrid because It has an Ivory/Bone Saddle on the Bridge. which creates this unique sound.
BTW I'm Using a Labella Rectified Nylons.

Here are the Videos I uploaded in YouTube:

1. Accented Buzz Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1s6brg7Jjo

2. Accented Buzz Improv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY5a9UYEraA

Thanks for Mr. Maurice Shehata 4 his Un-Imaginable Gift as an Artist. He Is a Very Kind Person.

PICTURES AT THE BOTTOM PAGE....

Specifications about my Oud:

-Naseer Shamma Oud Size
-Nut/Bridge [Bone/Ivory]
-Pick-up [Viken najarian]
-Canadian Spruce Jumbo AAA (Soundboard)
-East indian rosewood/Palissander (Bowl)
-Ebony Tuning Keys
-Macascar Ebony Fingerboard
-Shell Bindings/Mother of Pearl on the Sides
-Sycamore/maple (Bowl stripes)

And My Arabic Concept Inlay on Rossette ("Naseem Al Rooh")

Take care guys

GODBLESS!! :buttrock:

This site Rocks.............. :bounce:

Thanks mike :applause:

Oud in the making:

[file]11836[/file] [file]11820[/file] [file]11822[/file]
[file]11838[/file] [file]11824[/file] [file]11826[/file] [file]11830[/file] [file]11832[/file] [file]11828[/file] [file]11834[/file]

saddas - 10-14-2009 at 03:56 AM

The Oud really looks beautiful, congratulations!

rex2009 - 10-14-2009 at 06:26 AM

That is going to be a heck of an Oud. Well done, and I do agree with what you have said about Mr Shehata. he is a very nice an honest man. congratulations and play it for years to come in good health.
Tarig

FLIPAX - 10-14-2009 at 01:33 PM

Thanks rex2009 for your wonderfull reply........

Yes Mr shehata is very passionate in his art and truly one of the greatest Oud makers Today.

Hope you have a great day.........

cheers :airguitar:

FLIPAX - 10-14-2009 at 01:36 PM

Thanks Saddas....

take care man!

Need to practice my Half-flats........Well back again to my friends oud...

Its Hard to get practice these days........

Cheers bro

Aziz Durzy - 10-21-2009 at 04:31 PM

This is a very nice oud, hope you enjoy it for a long time to come, I bought my oud from Maurice in Jan 2009, they are honest people, and gave me good service. I have started to build my own oud and hope to finish it by year end.

JasonM - 10-21-2009 at 05:53 PM

Congratulations on your beautiful oud. It is very tasteful and has a nice balance of 'bling'. Personally I think it looks good enough without the rosettes installed, but I'd like to see it when it's all done.

I recently 're-discovered' my own Shehata and have enjoyed playing it! I'm sure your going to love your oud - put Daniel Mari strings on it and it'll sing.

Jase

Marina - 10-22-2009 at 05:14 AM

Mabruk!
:applause:

FLIPAX - 10-24-2009 at 08:50 PM

Thanks Aziz Durzy & JasonM and Marina for your support. definitely I'll post the new pictures if I get the oud this week.........

thanks all of you out there hope you all play in good health...

cheers, :xtreme:

PHILIP

fadel - 10-25-2009 at 06:03 AM

hi

nice oud Mabrouk

FLIPAX - 10-25-2009 at 09:59 AM

Thanks fadel.....

Play in good health........

Cheers :airguitar:

Mr shehata Visits Dubai.....

FLIPAX - 10-30-2009 at 11:29 AM

Here are the Pics:

[file]12110[/file] [file]12112[/file] [file]12118[/file]

[file]12116[/file] [file]12120[/file] [file]12122[/file]

THanks! :applause:

-Philip

Christian1095 - 11-4-2009 at 12:24 PM

Sweet oud.... I also have his pickup system on my oud and even when I'm sitting with a monitor pointed at the instrument, it does not feedback and sounds great...

Also, if there is every an earthquake or metors falling from the sky, I'm going to hide inside the case... that thing is indestructable.....

The only thing that I wasn't completely jazzed about was the slots cut into the instrument for the preamp... But a bit of black model paint solved that problem.... I just wonder why he doesn't put a cover on it...

FLIPAX - 11-5-2009 at 05:26 AM

:wavey:

Marhaba Christian!

Quote: Originally posted by Christian1095

Sweet oud.... I also have his pickup system on my oud and even when I'm sitting with a monitor pointed at the instrument, it does not feedback and sounds great...

Also, if there is every an earthquake or metors falling from the sky, I'm going to hide inside the case... that thing is indestructable..

Yes its has no feedback, and it really sounds good even when you have a shiitty amp..

Thanks Mr Maurice Al Hamdudulah!

P:S:

Yes Even A meteorite Wont Destroy the case! LOL

Shukran HABIBI's,

PHILIP :airguitar:

FLIPAX - 11-11-2009 at 07:38 AM

Thanks for all of you,

Im so thankfull to have u guys here.
I Hope everyone has a Good long life
To enjoy and play music.

Thanks Mike :applause:

All the best,
PHILIP

Pick up system in Shehata oud

shareen - 11-11-2009 at 03:48 PM

Please describe the pick up system. I am desperately looking for one that can handle a large venue (1,000 seats and more), won't feed back and sounds as natural as possible. Please advise details.

Thanks

FLIPAX - 11-12-2009 at 02:08 AM

Hi!shareen :wavey:

Quote: Originally posted by shareen

Please describe the pick up system.
Thanks

It's Pretty Sweet, Simple Preamp System, Transducer

1. Volume
2. Bass EQ
3. Treble EQ
4. LED Light for Battery Check
5. 9 Volts Battery with Compartment

It's Made by Viken Najarian, Check the link for his bio:

http://www.oud.net/index.htm

Quote: Originally posted by shareen

I am desperately looking for one that can handle a large venue (1,000 seats and more), won't feed back and sounds as natural as possible. Please advise details.

Regarding about the Feedback for large venue. If You Play with the mic In front of Your Oud. The Sound engineer should handle all the Feedback coming from your oud.

But if You Play With Pick-up then straight to Mixer or Whatever I advise to have a Good Pedal Feedback before plug-in into the mixer this what I have. It seem to be The best Noise Feed back System. Maybe It helps or Not

MXR Smart Gate

Check the link:

http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=255

That's what I used so Far. There are more better Rack-mounted Processors that also good. But Sound Engineer Should have This. Since Its A Big Concert Usually They have Good System for this.

But Regarding the Price its Cost more, and Its Big to carry especially if it is Rack-mounted. You Need The Hard casing also to support the Processor.

Hope This Helps

Thanks

Greetings from Dubai

Philip :airguitar:

P.S: Some Pictures That Mr Maurice Shehata Sent me When he was Making the OUd :xtreme:

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Sazi - 11-12-2009 at 02:24 AM

The noise gate is not the right tool for the job, and shouldn't be necessary, they are designed to filter out noise caused by high level boosting effects such as overdrive, (not a common effect for oud!) or any other noisy bit of circuitry like old fx pedals etc. between the instrument and the mixing desk, or noise picked up by single coil pick-ups for instance, also not used on oud.

The only trouble you should have is if you're playing in front of a (too)loud foldback wedge, as ouds are highly resonant beasties they tend to start feeding back easily when everything is probably too loud anyway. One (expensive) solution is to use in-ear monitoring, the other is a dedicated feedback suppressor, such as these fairly cheap units :-

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ2496.aspx

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DSP1124P.aspx

BUT!... Shareen, if you are playing a gig that big you probably don't need to worry about it, I shouldn't imagine you'd be using your own PA, and the F.O.H. guy will most likely have one or a very good surgical eq. for just that kind of problem. There may even be in ear monitoring, it's getting a lot more common these days. (If you can find out in advance who is doing the sound or spec'ing the system you could speak to them about it)

Christian1095 - 11-12-2009 at 08:32 AM

Hey Shareen, I'm currently playing for a belly dance troupe at the Rennaisance Faire here in NC. I'm running my shehata oud through my little Beringer 100W amp and then onto a much larger PA. To be frank, I'm playing it loud as heck and sitting right in front of the Amp... But because of the style of pickup - there is a piece of ivory right in front of the bridge that the strings sit on... that vibration is what is getting picked up and not the vibrations from the face of the oud.

It's not that much different that my electric sukar oud except that you get more of the sympathetic vibrations on the other strings (which makes a lot of difference in the overall sound - IMO)

I've also played in the same venue with a piezio pickup in two of my Sukar ouds... In truth I'm not that impressed with the piezios I've used (pick up the world and K&K) for the oud (K&K is awesome on the saz though) - they do the job, but in order to get rid of feedback, I end up running them through a notch filter on my preamp...

To be honest, I think it depends on what you're trying to do... I'm playing with a violin and a drum... so I feel like I'm giving up just a little bit of sound for a TON of convenience (ie, just plug in and go) In terms of effects I'm putting just a little bit of reverb and EQ.... If I was going to do a solo oud thing, or have the oud be really in the spotlight, I think that a really good mic is the way to go.... I haven't heard a pickup or piezio that really captures the ENTIRE sound of the instrument.

Christian1095 - 11-12-2009 at 08:34 AM

That being said, I'm a HUGE fan of the system Maurice installed on my oud... Just gotta accept there are some limitations.

FLIPAX - 11-13-2009 at 03:24 PM

Hi Christian1095! :wavey:

Quote: Originally posted by Christian1095

I'm a HUGE fan of the system Maurice installed on my oud... Just gotta accept there are some limitations.

Me Too

Honestly all piezo/tranducers are limited!

I would Go with Christian Advise on this! :xtreme:

It also Depend on which Instruments are you playin with. How Many are you in the band and what style basically and How Sensitive and Quiet your Music is.

Some Groups Really Capture the Amazing Dynamics needed. Then If Your Group Is Like That Then I would use Mic Infront of Me Instead of Pick-up. Even If I had a Good Pickup System.

Then Decide If Mic (In Front of Oud) or w/ Pickup.

Happy Ouding :rolleyes:

Greetings from Dubai

Philip :airguitar:

P:S:

Can Somebody share some Pictures of Their Oud That Has a Pick-up Installed?

Sukkars Maybe or Faruk Turunz w/ Fish Man? Or Any KK Twin Spot? etc.. etc...

And Comment on the Sound of their Pick-up?

fernandraynaud - 11-14-2009 at 12:02 AM

This is a homemade pickup using a $2 Radio Shack piezo on my Egyptian oud. You can see the piezo element glued to a balsa wood wafer (cork is good too), then the assembly is tacked down with double-sided tape, and a 1/4" jack taped to the oud for the cable. This is OBVIOUSLY not meant to show off a pretty final assembly. There are many ways to mount a piezo, the under-saddle method of course requires .... a saddle

The sound here I think is really quite faithful, you can hear the sympathetic resonance, the Arabian snap, the light string buzzing. I had some tracks where I truly forgot which were mic'ed with expensive mics and which were recorded using the pickup, and I wasn't sure which were which, until I remembered that the pickup tracks were easily distinguished because they were mono. The sound file here has only some reverb added.

Sound File: [file]12299[/file]

[file]12300[/file] [file]12302[/file] [file]12304[/file]

Be careful how you hang the jack, I scratched my oud a bit by not paying attention. I'm working on a little balsa wood assembly to mount it more professionally, but still be very light.

In a feedback situation on stage, a multi-band parametric equalizer (filter) is generally necessary for the sound engineer to surgically notch out the problem frequencies without wrecking the overall sound. As a piezo assembly on doube-sided ltape is pressed against the oud face, more low frequencies are passed, and these feed back easily if you are standing in front of the speakers, so it's all a balancing act.

Aymara - 11-14-2009 at 12:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud

Be careful how you hang the jack, I scratched my oud a bit by not paying attention.

The solution is easy ... instead of soldering the jack directly to the piezo's cables, I would solder a longer cable in-between, so you would tape the cable to the oud and not the jack

BTW ... this cheap little gem has an amazingly good sound ... great tip :applause:

FLIPAX - 11-15-2009 at 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud

There are many ways to mount a piezo, the under-saddle method of course requires .... a saddle

Thanks Sir fernandraynaud! :applause:

For the lovely Picture's and Advises. You've such great help in this Forum. I hope Mike does something about this greatness! LOL

Hope your kids and family are fine! :buttrock:

Shalom

Philip :airguitar:

Aymara - 11-15-2009 at 01:58 PM

Hybrid Fixed Bridge!

Mr shehata Visits Dubai.....

Pick up system in Shehata oud

Does anybody here already Tried the KK quad Pickup?