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Elie Riachi
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Okay Jameel,
Every time I look at the art work in this oud, I see something never seen before. Therefore I bestow upon you the title of M.C. Escher ( http://www.mcescher.com/ ) of the oud inlay art.
Like everyone else here I am waiting to hear the voice of this oud. I would like to say that if my hearing is accurate, I think the first oud you
built sounded a lot like the Na7at oud in the sound clip that one of the members on this forum posted of thier Na7at oud after they purchased it on
e-bay.
So here you have it, form and function.
Regards,
Elie
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Jonathan
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I am the one with both of those ouds, so I guess I should comment. They both sound very different. Jameel's oud has a much brighter tone, some of
which I attribute to its newness. It has a lot of volume--more than the Nahat. If anything, with its size and tone, I think I would compare it most
to a Turkish oud, rather than an Arabic oud.
The most noticeable thing about Jameel's first oud is that it is lightweight, which is just great. And yet, you get the feeling that it is very very
durable.
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Elie Riachi
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jonathan
I am the one with both of those ouds, so I guess I should comment. They both sound very different. Jameel's oud has a much brighter tone, some of
which I attribute to its newness. It has a lot of volume--more than the Nahat. If anything, with its size and tone, I think I would compare it most
to a Turkish oud, rather than an Arabic oud.
The most noticeable thing about Jameel's first oud is that it is lightweight, which is just great. And yet, you get the feeling that it is very very
durable. |
Thank you Jonathan for the clarification, I guess recorded sound can be misleading to my ears, for some reason I thought they sounded similar. This
kind of dashes my hopes of copying the Na7at sound by just copying dimensions. Sorry about the confusion.
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Jonathan
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Elie, I can't tell squat by listening to recorded sound on a computer, either. I would like to blame the computer, but I know it is my ears.
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palestine48
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Hey Jonathon have you ever had that nahat inspected or appraised?
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Jonathan
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I don't want to sidetrack this thread, so this will be the last post on this one.
I have had a couple of people look at it that are familiar with Nahats, and they think it is legit. Never had it appraised. I am taking it to
another guy in another couple of weeks or so (he is doing an oud repair for me) who has had some experience with Nahats--I am interested in his
opinion. And, one day, I would love to get Doc Os opinion on this thing.
A shame that we don't really have that sort of authentication process that exists for, say, violins, where you can go to an expert and he will give
you a document that states whether the instrument is authentic or not. At least, if we do have that, I am not aware of it.
I had a couple of folks offer to buy it, but I don't really want to sell it.
A couple things have been pointed out to me regarding the body shape of Nahats that I was not familiar with, but all hold true on the oud that I have.
One interesting thing is that, when looking at a Nahat in profile, the bowl will almost always tend to curve in where it joins the top. A subtle
thing, but I thought it was interesting.
When I have the next guy look at it, I will see if he can post some comments on this board. Authentic or not, it could be a learning experience for
all of us.
Now, back to Jameel's oud.
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Dr. Oud
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jonathan
I don't want to sidetrack this thread, ....One interesting thing is that, when looking at a Nahat in profile, the bowl will almost always tend to
curve in where it joins the top.... |
Now I'm sidetracking! Shame on me! The "tumble over" or 190 degree body
is found on some Nahats, notably from Roufan, but not all of them. Some of the Nahats I have seen have a hemishperical back. Fadel Hussein also used
the tumble over design, but only at the tail end, (at least on Ronny's 1956).
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Mike
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Incredible job Jameelo with the fingerboard. The birds look absolutely beautiful....much like elegant swans. Can't wait to see more fabulous and
detailed pictures and/or videos! :-)
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Jameel
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THE FINISHED OUD
Thanks, Mike! I've been waiting for you to return to post the final update to this topic. I'm glad you are back safely.
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First I'd like to thank Mike for the forum and the oppurtunity to post this project here.
Secondly I'd like to thank everyone who bothered to take the time to respond and offer encouragement and support.
So here are some pictures of the finished instrument.
If you would like to see more photos take a look here:Khalaf Oud 2005
I don't have any good sound files recorded yet, but in the next post is a little video I made of the oud, with a couple clips at the end where you can
get an idea of the sound. This one sounds much better than any one I've made so far, so I'm particularly pleased given the visual appearance of the
oud.
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Jameel
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VIDEO
Click the link to see the video:
Khalaf Oud Luthiery - October 2005 Oud
Make sure your speakers/headphones are turned on.
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shlomi
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 amazing work jameel!!!
i havent written any comment until now but i check youre page daily
im realy curious to hear this beutifull oud
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Jonathan
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Jameel! Fantastic job, my friend. The oud looks, and sounds, incredible. You are a true artist, and you encourage us all with your talent. The
video was superb, as well. Mabrouk!
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hamed
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perhaps this will end up in a museum someday, very nice work.
sincerely
hamed
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SamirCanada
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WOW.. Finaly we have some closure and what A show it was. Simon was playing this oud as if he was born with it in his hands. Congradulations on a
perfect project with a perfect ending. The level of professionalism on display was of the highest I feel privileged to have followed your project and
eventualy I hope to see another one eventho you plan on doing other things. I dont know if you have in mind selling this oud but you should definetly
hang on to it and enjoy it for a little while. Did you ever think of taking orders from clients to build oud?
All the best
Samir
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Mike
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What can we say Jameelo? A truly incredible job my man. There really aren't any words to describe how I'm feeling right now. I just watched the entire
video presentation, and for Simon to want to play your oud in concert says it all. Your videography skills are almost as great as your oudmaking
skills my friend. I couldn't look away from my computer screen during the whole thing. Jameelo I've told you this before....but truly
YOU ARE THE MAN! 
Your friend,
Mike
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Elie Riachi
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What a grand finale Jameel!
I will have to watch the video again but with tabouli and kase 3raa2 this time. Kasak Jameel.
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spyrosc
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Incredible
What can I say !
My only thoughts are to thank God that He creates people like Jameel and gives such skills to them to make humanity worth something !
Praise God ! Il Hamdu lillah ! la hawla wala quwwata 'illa bi llah.
Jameel you are one special human being !
Your friend
Spyros C.
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mavrothis
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OUTSTANDING JAMEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS YOUR HANDS!!!!! What a beautiful surprise to see Simon Shaheen performing on your beautiful oud. Wonderful work Jameel. It was really
sweet of you to include us in your video too, thanks so much for making us a part of your beautiful work! 
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Sidi
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Alf Alf mabrouk Jameel
I can't begin to tell you how happy I am for you. You deserve every last bit of credit for your passion and your infinite dedication towards our
beloved instrument. I won't even go into your outstanding craftsmanship...the pictures say it all really. Thanks to folks like you the Oud is alive
and well for years to come in Sha2 Allah.
Keep 'em coming,
-Sidi
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oudmaker
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Jameel
Exellent work. You are very talented craftsman. Keep it up.
Dincer
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sydney
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Congratulations Jameel
I could not find enough words to congratulate you with.
Every step in making this oud deserves a very special thanks to you for you have taken the time to share it with us.
You are for sure a talented person and blessed with lots of grace.
I can not help calling you "Nahat of 2005" and this is the least you deserve.
Congratulations Jameel.
Thank you for sharing all this with us.
Kind Regards,
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Emad
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David Parfitt
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Jameel
Just finished watching the video - absolutely incredible!!! It has been such a privilege to watch such a true craftsman at work. Look forward to
following the progress of your future projects too.
All the best
David
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LeeVaris
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Awesome!
I am speechless... what a finale !!!
Jameel, your craftsmanship is inspiring and the video... what can one say? Great stuff - can't wait to see the next creation!
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Faladel
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Alf Mabrouk Jameel .... its very very nice and absolutely incredible.
Oud Player
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ofadel
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Mabrouk Mabrouk!! Your work is absolutely incredible!!!! And what an unveiling. I can't wait to see the next one!
omar
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