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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 12:24 PM
3 bowls


The bowls are finished but before i removed the tape, I use strong paper strips and hot glue to join the ribs inside.
I have already metioned this in another post

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 12:25 PM


Seems to be a lot of work to build oud soundboards out of these piano boards. But I bet, it's worth it.



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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 12:32 PM


Yes Chris. it is lot of hard work, many people don't believe I work in the IT when they seem my hands :)
the whole piano soundboard only gives one proper soundboard for the oud, but the braces are very important also. so I have braces for 6 or 7 ouds :).




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 12:35 PM
japanese saws


These saw are a must to have. as for any luthier or woodworking lover, they make such clean and easy cuts.

so I use them for the braces, neck opening etc..

I also have made a little jig for the neck opening. as I have mentioned in other posts. the neck front side opening is 1 mm lower than the back side. in this case the neck when mounted will lean forward for the strings actions adjustement. we will get more in detail later on this.
so the neck front side opening is 16mm low , the back side is 15

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 12:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sabbassi  
the whole piano soundboard only gives one proper soundboard for the oud, ...


I would have expected more than one ... astonishing.




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 10:48 PM


I'm sorry Samir,
is a transcription error by the translator.
I just wanted to say that the lute is
liked to other group members.
Good holidays time.
and good job.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2011 at 03:19 AM
indian rosewood


I had to finish the Indian rosewood oud before I go on vaccation for a friend. I will get back to the build process as soon as I come back.

Hand made rosette is from Lemon wood.

here is a picture of the finished oud. destination is Spain.

I will update this project in 3 weeks from now Inchalah

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[*] posted on 10-31-2011 at 04:04 AM


Hello Samir,
as usual ....
great job really great job.
we feel the next.

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[*] posted on 11-18-2011 at 08:31 AM
Continuing



the braces are also from sruce and 4.7mm thick. for now the hight is 18mm for all of them.

the purfling around the big hole is inserted in the facetop (see picture) just like they do for guitar, this way the combination is strong for holding the shamsa later or even when touching the purfling. for the small ones the purfling is arount the holes.

glueing the braces : I prefere to glue the first 4 at the back to make any adjustement and to have a good view. when its dry I go for the next 3.

When all is cured, I down the braces like this, from back to front

a13mm, b16mm, b13mm, d16mm, e15mm f14mm g13mm

the distance between a an b does not exceed 8.9 cmmm
the distance between f g is about 5cm

all this number can be tweaked depending on the stiffness of the top and braces and the size etc..

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[*] posted on 11-18-2011 at 08:33 AM
Continuing


Mounting the top on to the body require a purfling around the inside of the bowl.
braces alone glued the the body is not enouph. just like they do with custom guitars. and is turn out to be very good for the sound later.

Cocobolo purfling for around the soundboard and some cocobolo inlay at the front.


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[*] posted on 11-21-2011 at 05:35 AM


Samir Hello and welcome back.

I am following with interest your work on these three new ouds.

Do you think to give their aesthetic and sound characteristics different?

Good luck and see you soon.:)
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[*] posted on 11-22-2011 at 09:04 AM


Nice work sabbassi

I see you used linings at the inner edge of the bowl. I tried that also once.

Also, you said you use a computer program to tweak the shape of the ribs. I'd like to do that. Which program do you use?
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[*] posted on 11-23-2011 at 01:53 PM


ondalud: In our arabic culture there is something we call al Baraka. dificult to explain but it is close to God gift. I can do my very best and try to make the best oud ever, but I need little Baraka to do it. for this oud also, he will have his own baraka and I'm alsmost sure it will be different from previous ouds in sound but will have same touch and aroma :)


Bulerias, I always use the inner strips, like they do in guitar.
I'm not a photoshop expert but you can use it for many things like lines, and curves, when you draw a line you can make start and end and shape it as you want using the tools.





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[*] posted on 11-23-2011 at 01:57 PM


Sorry guys It is cold outside a this moment and it is time consuming to make pictures and post the whole process. I will continue the building process later when it get little warm.

anyway I have posted the most important about braces, soundboard, bowl etc.

I have finished the macassar oud today and I will mount the rosettes tomorrow and make some pictures and a sound file soon

I'm also ready to answer any question in detail.




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[*] posted on 11-24-2011 at 01:09 AM


Samir, wonderful!

THAT's the word I was looking for, not "spacers" between the ribs: PURFLING!

And what is the Feline Something bag you keep the saws in? What brand are they (the saws)?


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[*] posted on 11-24-2011 at 11:38 AM


Hi Fernand,

I keep the hand saws is the original bags. the saws come in plastic holder and you could purchace them here. it is a japanes brand called Dozuki I guess

http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/product/712865/Basic-4-Piece-Saw-Se...




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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 03:47 AM
Here are some pictures of the oud


specs:

- Pyramid lute strings CGDAFC
- Hand made rosette with lemon wood. thank you Alfaraby for the design
-Brasilian rosewood bridge
- highly figured root wood with black purfling around

The action is very low and smooth, 100% buzz free at firt use.

I will post a sound file later this week.





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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 03:57 AM


this is an amazing our samir u keep getting better and better
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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 04:44 AM


Thank you danny, it is a nice one indeed



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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 05:22 AM


Samir, is simply spectacular ....
and if it plays at least as it is beautiful ....
Congratulations Samir, now expect to hear the sound....
Have a good weekend.

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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 06:14 AM


Samir

What a beautiful oud - I particularly like the motif on the bottom of the bowl at the root of the ribs

Brilliant

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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 06:45 AM


Thanks Achille, Leon

the motif at the back is a taken from old Moroccan doors. I wanted to give this oud an Andalous style.





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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 09:01 AM


Samir, this is beautiful as usual....The sound is great as well

Great job man, keep up the good work ;)
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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 09:11 AM


gorgeous work Samir...beautiful lines and details...thank you for sharing the process with us---its always inspiring...
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 12:29 AM


Thanks guys, I will record better file later next week , I have noticed that strings are just not tuned yet.



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