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Edward Powell
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cool, I still have not tried to double layer stuff...
...did you receive my email?
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Thanxs Edward. yes there are almosts all kinds of water(salt water, fresh water, lakes, rivers,...) in Iran.
yesterday i made a trip to Tehran and browsed some shops. all available line were made in China and i didn't see anything like "double layer" on the
boxes. however, I bought a 0.50mm/18.7kg (the thickest available). it's black and i bought 300 meters for about 8 bucks. which course can i use it
for?
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if that is regular nylon 0.5mm then if is good for the ff course (but probably a bit tight.
if that is 0.5mm PVF florocarbon then it is good for cc.
Hey, I might be coming to Iran for some gigs this winter --- hope to see you there!
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well it is worth a try to experiment with a wound gg... I still would guess that 0.022 would be too thick and tight... probably a 0.019 would be
better (?) have to get some custom strings made? |
Hi Edward, and the others of course,
For your information, when I received my oud from Fadi Matta (floating bridge, 7 course, 60cm string length), the strings were Pyramid Lute.
The gg was a wound string of 0.46mm [0.018"].
I have used it during 7 months without any problem.
I have a spare set that I bought to Matthias Wagner.
The gg is also a wound string of 0.48mm [0.0189"].
The reference of this one is PY9075, Pyramid Lute Strings.
All the gauges I have given have been measured with a micrometre. Therefore, it may slightly differ from the nominal gauge.
I hope it help.
Otherwise, I also am tempted by PVF.
But buying hundred of meters and use so few, really I can't !
Robert
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Edward Powell
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that is 0.46 plain nylon or wound string?
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Oh yes sorry, it's wound string.
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I definitely need to try to the PVF gg course, but I have a feeling that for this instrument the wound string will be necessary because this is not a
normal oud - it has a very small body and a very heavy soundboard --- the steelstring sarod neck sounds incredibly good, but the oud neck and gg nylon
in particular sounds very quiet...
Does anyone know where I can order such an 0.018 wound string, or the whole set?
thanks
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| Quote: Originally posted by Edward Powell | if that is regular nylon 0.5mm then if is good for the ff course (but probably a bit tight.
if that is 0.5mm PVF florocarbon then it is good for cc.
Hey, I might be coming to Iran for some gigs this winter --- hope to see you there! |
alright, thanx. so what for gg? 0.60mm?
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Assuming you do have PVF and not nylon, on 600mm ouds I use
0.020" = 0,52mm PVF for the cc course, and
0.024" = 0,62mm PVF for the gg course.
The gg course is great, the cc is a little tight, loud, but maybe a just a bit metallic-sounding. The 0.018" felt a little slack, so maybe one
solution is to take some of the gloss off the 0.020" by pulling them through some fine steel wool? I would try that for all strings if you have plain
PVF.
The dual layer PVF is a high-end material used by fishermen as a leader, where the ability to make knots that hold is very important.
Eddie, yes I got your message. 650mm scale!? I guess that with 0.028" nylon you've got about 2.7 Kg. With 0.024" PVF you'll have about 3.5 Kg. That
should beef it up a bit, it's going to be about 1/2 a Kg more tension that on my 600mmm ouds.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Edward Powell | I have a feeling that for this instrument the wound string will be necessary because this is not a normal oud -
Does anyone know where I can order such an 0.018 wound string, or the whole set?
thanks |
Matthias Wagner
http://music-strings.de/
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| Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud |
Eddie, yes I got your message. 650mm scale!? I guess that with 0.028" nylon you've got about 2.7 Kg. With 0.024" PVF you'll have about 3.5 Kg. That
should beef it up a bit, it's going to be about 1/2 a Kg more tension that on my 600mmm ouds.
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I am sure that will sound better - it just feels that it needs to be both thinner and tighter.
I would like also to try the 0.018 wound string but I am hoping that the PVF will work because that will be MUCH cheaper and less hassle in the long
run!
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| Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud | Assuming you do have PVF and not nylon, on 600mm ouds I use
0.020" = 0,52mm PVF for the cc course, and
0.024" = 0,62mm PVF for the gg course.
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ok, so 0.62 for gg, 0.52 for cc and 0.35 for ff? what is the reason of this big distance between cc and ff?
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Edward Powell
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generally 0.37 to 0.41mm is used for PVF ff course.
I just bought some other brand of PVF 0.62 MONOFILAMENT at a fishing store here in town... cost $20 for 25m. Put them on and they sound louder and
stronger but I don't feel the tone is really any better (maybe a touch worse, probably due to the monofilament hardness).
I would still like to try the seaguar 62 and also a wound 18, somehow.
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