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FLIPAX
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Sure thing Chris I Support You 110% 
Lets keep The Threads Alive Man!
Inshallah Maybe next month Chris You'll be the first one!
I'll U2U Mike Regarding this Matter.
Thanks Anyway
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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Aymara
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You're crazy, man ... my comment was ment as a joke 
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Forget about that. Sorry My bad!
Just Want to share my Thoughts: Sorry A little bit off-topic Here:
Brothers association of Players, Fans, Hobbist, Luthiers, Music Lover, Oud Lover's etc.. etc...
I know this by fact. Professionals or Famous Players normally don't attach themselves to novices or nubbies. Coz Normally they Discard Nubbies. I hope
They'll be friendly and helpful To all Beginners Here.
"Be Known to others. and Others also towards you" .
I understand that we live far away to each other half across the world and off course people you dont know or not like or not related will be staying
hidden forever cast down to oblivion.
Share the Love Brother! Its Music!
Just having some nice conversation with them. Wooah! Hope They Have Some Time To Share their Achievements to Others.
Its A Great Help for all the new members here. For the Professional to share their Greatness in Music!
Least People are also important coz i do believe that they are the skeletons of the Future MIke's Oud Forum.
Rest assured. Thanks for all who replied and help me as a brother in need. Know who u are! Thanks
"We are all small and created equally in front of our creator our lord GOD, and whoever feels he's greater is a
fool"
PEACE!
Shalom my friends,
Philip
P:S: Back to Earth Philip!
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Hey Flip, you've got a beautiful heart man, but a lot of members may be too busy to spend too much time, or they don't have a good enough grasp on the
nuances of the english language to understand what half the posts are even about. And as far as professionals giving advice, well, it doesn't make too
much difference because we're only going to do what we want anyway, I have seen some really helpful responses here, from professionals, that simply
got glossed over or ignored. We're all on our own paths, going our own way at our own pace according to our own understanding, yeah it's great to be
able to help someone along the way, but at least we know we're not alone, and I'm sure whatever we need to know is probably all here somewhere anyway,
the search engine is very primitive and a pain to use, but a google search of the forums is a better way to go if you're looking for specific
information.
salaam
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FLIPAX
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Thanks a Lot Sazi Afwan Habibi!
I understand what You mean Thanks for clearing the English thing.
What do you think SAZI?
I will post a Thread regarding on
"Member of the month" so we can get comments from other members if they like it or not or waht they think responses. Coz Its also Important what they
Feel about.
Lets see If they like it. Probably they will not. Maybe A Bad Idea!
Cheers man have a great Long Life!
Flipl
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Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  |
I will post a Thread regarding on "Member of the month" so we can get comments from other members if they like it or not ... |
Yes, why not ... here it's of-topic and many won't even read it.
Regarding your idea of the "big family" ... I think the forum already is that as good as possible (e.g. the UK meetings) and the "member of the month"
won't change anything, because people who visit the forum regularly find out very fast, which members are most active and most helpful.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Yes Good Point Man! Its already a good family but my point is to get a chance to talk to some great oudist here. Its Hard I know. Every man for
himself.
I just want to thank you Chris that You're Here to Listen to me!
So How Do we Attach ourselves to the professional here in the forum and Hopefully Be their Apprentice or Student Maybe.
If you Have any Suggestions Tell me. Thanks Anyway.
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because people who visit the forum regularly find out very fast, which members are most active and most helpful. |
Yes I also know now Who Are The Active members and Most Helpful. Which I'm Glad to know these people.
I know the Idea Sucks. But I'm Just Glad to be part of this Community.
Thanks Again Mike!
BTW back To the Earth Phil! Let Get back to the Thread Topic.
Shoukran,
Flip
Anyone has a Pick-up on their OUD? who wants to share some Pictures?
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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Aymara
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There are so many great players and luthiers here and if they find the time, they help. But not all are famous. But who cares ... anywhere in the
world there's always an unknown person even better.
| Quote: | | I just want to thank you Chris ... |
No problem ... I like your euphoria ... maybe because I'm currently in oud heaven too 
| Quote: | | So How Do we Attach ourselves to the professional here ... |
Just talk to them But first we should try to leave our beginner phase behind and
learn more to be able to talk about things they are interested in. A busy professional will be bored by beginner talk.
| Quote: | | ... and Hopefully Be their Apprentice or Student Maybe. |
Imagine Naseer Shamma would register as a user in this forum. He would get mad here, because he would recieve more U2U as would fit in his mailbox. He
would read everyday the same: "Please Mr. Shamma, let me visit your oud school in Cairo, let me be your student."
Don't you think so? Being famous is a burden!
| Quote: | | But I'm Just Glad to be part of this Community. |
Shure me too, especially because here in Germany aren't many oudists to talk to
| Quote: | | Anyone has a Pick-up on their OUD? |
I built a homebrew piezo pickup like the one FernandRaynauld recommended. It works but is too loud for the mic input of my notebook and lacks bass ...
grrr, the notebook has no line-in. I will need a small circuit to solve this ... further research needed.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Hi!
I Hope You Fixed Your Piezo about the bass lacking thing.
Maybe It Needs a Preamp to Have a Simple EQ Would be Nice and Handy for further tweaking.
Check you Later. I sent a U2U message. Reply About the Kueschner Thing.
Gracias,
Flip
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Hi again!
No, not yet, but I found a very simple circuit (only 2 resistors needed) to lower the output of the pickup by 40dB, which would fit the mic input's
impedance.
I'll try that first ... maybe that's enough ... if not, the best solution might be, to buy a professional audio interface for around 130$, because
even the notebook's mic input isn't very good regarding sound quality.
With Reaper and a good audio interface and microphone I will be able to record in CD quality ... but after buying the oud I'm bankrupt for a while ... so this has to wait.
BTW ... you can use Reaper to create nice rhythm tracks, which you can burn on CD in Hi-Fi quality, which I find great, especially when considering,
that this software only costs 60$ for private use.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Does anybody here already Tried the KK quad Pickup?
Hi! Guys 
Just wondering If Anybody here Experience The New KK Quad Transducer Pickup on their Oud?
Salamat,
Flip
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Aymara
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HERE we go
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Thanks
But they only mention KK Twin Spot.
I'm Looking for Quad KK. It Has 4 Round Transducers. not Only 2.
Thanks Anyway
Flip
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No, in the first posting someone is mentioned, who uses the KK Quad ... maybe send him a U2U.
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Chris
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FLIPAX
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Gracias Chris!
I'll Try To read again the threads and figure out who said about KK Quad.
BTW.... How Do You Make an Close Authentic Sound Even w/ a Pickup In Use?
Gracias
Flip
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Some pickups are close to the sound of microphones, for example the bridge pickup in my guitar. But on an acoustic instrument a good microphone can't
be beaten for studio work ... on stage it's easier to handle a pickup, especially when you're not a soloist.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Off Course Thats why if there are more than 10 Players on Stage And Your Not The Soloist It Ok To Have Pick.
My Concerns Are What Kind Of Equipment or EQ do Some Player Used If They Going to Used the Oud w/ Pickup on Stage.
Coz I always see oudist used microphones on stage.
Flip
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That's usually a matter of the sound engineer, not the musician.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Chris is right there, but on the few occasions where I've had to use a pickup I have used an el-cheapo ART tube pre-amp to warm the sound up a little,
it also has a phase inverter switch that can help if you have feedback problems, it just so happens that in my case at least, activating the phase
switch actually improves the sound too, a bit warmer again.
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FLIPAX
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| Quote: Originally posted by Sazi |
I've had to use a pickup I have used an el-cheapo ART tube pre-amp to warm the sound up a little,
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Thanks Sazi!
Amazing How a Tube Preamp can help a Lot.
Yes It does Improves the Sound. I remember my friend a electric guitar player. He use to bring all his equipment on stage. Effects Pedalboard,
Amplifier, Guitars. woot!
But seems to me in Oud Playing just Bring the Oud and Your Tube-Preamp! wallah! Seems Easier to carry compare to guitar players who bring truck loads
of equipment.
Cheers for Oud Players!
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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I think, the key word here isn't pre-amp, but tube
Look how many guitarists and bassists love to use tube based amps, which have a smoother sound as transistor based amps. BTW ... you'll notice a
similar trend with Hi-Fi enthusiasts.
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I remember my friend a electric guitar player. He use to bring all his equipment on stage. Effects Pedalboard, Amplifier, Guitars. woot! |
Electric guitar is a different league ... his equipment would be much smaller, if he would be a flamenco guitarist for example.
And what effect's do oud players use? Maybe EQ, maybe chorus and that's it ... most use nothing ... as I wrote above ... the job of the sound
engineer.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Hey how come my name is on that quote? it was'nt me who said that it was Flip! (I used to do that once though) 
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Aymara
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Oops ... I don't know, how that happened ... I corrected it.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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Yeah My Name Was Snatched
Chris seems to be Multi-tasking at that time. He's a Busy person I suppose!
Hi Sazi! and Chris!
Did You Tried any Oud that sound closed or dry?
I'm Just wondering cause I have Tried some Oud Here in the Gulf some sounded dry.
Have u encounter anything like this?
Also One More thing..........
In your personal opinions, if your looking for a new oud what characteristics of sounds do you prefer.......
Share your Thoughts!
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
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Me, I love floating bridge ouds and one of the main things I look for is sustaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnn..................................................!
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