MatthewW
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Ouds for Women
Hello all- I have a lady friend who is interested in playing oud. She would like to have any information on ouds made specially for women. I assume
this would mean having a slightly smaller bowl size, and perhaps a shorter string length as well.
I think this question may have been asked a few years ago, but there seems to be little info available for women looking for this type of oud.
If any of you can share any more information on this subject it would be very helpful. If any of you knows a lady who is playing on an oud that was
built with the female sensibilities in mind, and we can get some feedback from her and the specs on her oud, that would be great.
Thanks!
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Hi Matthew,
I wished i can help but all the girls i know have no idea about music ... !
Thanks
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MatthewW, about ladies' oud, I don't know about their availability in UK. All I can tell u is that the workshop of Mr. Ibrahim Sukkar in Aleppo, makes
smaller ouds, used by most of the girls who study the instrument in the lebanese conservatory, I remember having seen two smaller sizes than his large
sizes, and they have a nice particular charming and catchy sound as well.
Regards
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http://www.eraydinsazevi.com.tr
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=820#pid5977
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dubai244
Hi Matthew,
I wished i can help but all the girls i know have no idea about music ... !
Dubai, now here's a good opportunity for you to offer music lessons! 
thanks Oud Freak and zalzal for the info.
looking forward to more replies, and maybe even one from a lady oud player with a special oud. THANKS |
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Interesting this Do I need to give the measurements? 
Best wishes
Ronny
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MatthewW
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Ronny, do you mean of the oud? 
seriously, if you have them yes.
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MatthewW if you go to the Buy & Sell Ouds you will find the thread "5 unique iraqui ouds" which Oud.Prof is selling. The one the lady above is
playing is a Fawzi Munshid OUD made at Basra. You can even listen to a nikriz audio file.
Soundbox length: 48cm (19.2")
Soundbox width: 38cm (15.2")
Soundbox depth: 19cm (7.6")
Fingerboard length: 19cm (7.6")
Bridge Style: Floating Bridge, 6 course
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MatthewW
Ronny, do you mean of the oud?
seriously, if you have them yes. |
I have measurements for them both but lets focus on the oud
The Fawzy I have is most likely uncomfortable for most women as it is for my wife, since the bowl is 22cm deep and soundboard is 32cm wide. So this
Fawzy is little deeper and wider than the older model for sale. Smaller Turkish ouds should be fine and I really don't believe in the ¨pear¨shaped
model suitability for women.
Best wishes
Ronny
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The pear ouds are kinda exotic! I've tried some. The shape is really weird in my opinion, and the grip is not that comfortable even for small sizes. I
totally agree Ronny. By the way and where and by who did the pear-oud idea arise? (Not joking). I fancy that a pineapple shaped oud would be also nice
to be tried :P (certainly joking now)
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MatthewW, your friend might find a Turkish "Hanim" Ud (57cm) or many 57cm Iraqi Bashir-style Oud such as a Haidar Najm Abboud or Fawzy Munshid should
be comfortable, and I can fully recommend she ask our very own Oud.Proff. for any Iraqi oud. He is great to do business with and packs an oud for
shipping very safely. (I had a Hanim Ud and I think my Haidar is less deep, more comfortable)
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Hello matthewW
I send to you zenne ouds picture .there are two still model zenne oud in turkey muzik
first model body length 45 cm clavye length 18.5 cm second model body length 42 cm clavye length 18 cm this models have used ottoman masters (manol
,ali galip, ohannes uzunyan )
others model my father have made body length 47 cm clavye length 19.5 cm.
I send my fathers for woman oud pictures two model.
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body calıps wood mahogany and paduk
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zenne oud
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body wood tik and mahogany
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thanks sazi and Veysel for the information. Those are very nice looking ouds Veysel. this thread will be a very useful reference for others with the
same question.
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That's an interesting (and small) looking oud on the left in the glass case.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sazi
MatthewW, your friend might find a Turkish "Hanim" Ud (57cm) or many 57cm Iraqi Bashir-style Oud such as a Haidar Najm Abboud or Fawzy Munshid should
be comfortable, and I can fully recommend she ask our very own Oud.Proff. for any Iraqi oud. He is great to do business with and packs an oud for
shipping very safely. (I had a Hanim Ud and I think my Haidar is less deep, more comfortable) |
No I forgotten to tell that the Fawzy with its deep bowl is not a good choice for women. The bowl need to be shallower. Also the neck can be
problematic for players with small hands.
Best wishes
Ronny
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woman oud section link
Yes Ronny, I would also assume that a shallower bowl would be preferable for a lady. It would be nice to actually have some feedback from any women
out there!
I just came across this lovely older thread on woman and ouds which is very interesting and worth checking out, and would link nicely with this
thread:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=3146#pid268...
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Ronny & Matthew, sorry if my post sounded misleading, I was referring to a short scale 57cm, which has a body depth and neck length of only 19cm.
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Hi Guys,
I think electric oud will be another option for womens oud players.
Thanks
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